Yar, the college process indeed.

[Sforzando]

So the SAT's are tomorrow (which I'm taking the II's, not a lot of fun), and Early Applications are due really soon.
For the high-school seniors, where do you guys/girls want to go, and for what reason?
For those lucky college-students, where are you going right now?

In the spring, when we get those admission/rejection letters, we can see who is going where, and maybe find out that some of us are going to the same school...which would be a hell of a coincidence.

As for me, I ain't doing any Early's, because I don't have a definite idea as to what I want to study, and also (mostly) because there isn't one school that I favor above all else...but some schools topping my list are: Columbia University, University of North Carolina (Chapel Hill), Bucknell University, Claremont McKenna, and University of Pennsylvania (UPenn). Liberal arts and sciences is the road for me.

[ViciousEternal]

I did running start and when I graduated I got a AAS and a HS diploma. And now I am getting Degree in Digital Design. So, because I graduated with a AAS I did not have to take the SAT.

[King]

I go to FullSail, they don't care about SATs

[Kaizer The Faust]

I need to take mine tomorrow.
So does Sapphire.
He needs to get the fuck offline from the IRC so I can too.

[The Ghost888]

I just hope you all do better than my brother... lets just say he sucked out so bad they most likely gave him pity points for knowing his own name.

[Spectre]

I'm really hoping to go to Champlain College

[Lord Dagoth]

I took mine today too :(

[Kaizer The Faust]

I raped the SATs.
With my penis.
I have papercuts all over it now :(

[echoes]

University of British Columbia, represent

[Scopes]

I'm Canadian, no SATs for me!

[WaterSilver]

I'm in Dawson, and I want to get into Concordia University if I can pull my CRC out of the fire.

[Sforzando]

oh boy, three SAT II's in a row: physics, math 2, and lit.

i remember looking at the questions on Literature, and saying to myself that there are three correct answers for this question...sigh.

curses to you canadians (and other non-usa people) who don't have to take SAT's. but maybe you have an equivalent...eh

[Wolf Pup TK]

For those lucky college-students, where are you going right now?
...
Liberal arts and sciences is the road for me.
Brown University. If you think you have even a tiny chance of getting in (same goes for any college you are interested in), then you should apply. It's rated #1 in the nation for happy students, and it's got strong liberal arts and CS. I'm not sure about sciences, but I know it's at least good.

I got lucky and only had to take 2 SAT 2s. I think I took math and physics. I hope you did well on those tests!

[echoes]

we have provincial exams - maybe the same? They are individual courses, so they are probably different. I shredded mine pretty easily. High school tests are easy, really. The mark you get is equivalent to the effort you put in. College is the same except subtract 10 percent from your aaverage nad be happy with it (unless you make distinctions between university and college - I have only gone to University but I write college because it is more universal)

[TheNinjew]

Is the SAT II a subject test? or is it the normal math reading and writing one? I can never remember that...

Anyways, I'm hoping to get into Columbus State University next year. They have a really nice music school there.

[Sforzando]

Brown University. If you think you have even a tiny chance of getting in (same goes for any college you are interested in), then you should apply. It's rated #1 in the nation for happy students, and it's god strong liberal arts and CS. I'm not sure about sciences, but I know it's at least good.


Hm, Brown, eh? It crossed my mind at one point, but I admit I had a slight aversion to any Ivy-League schools, simply because I didn't think it was worth my while to apply to a school like Princeton or Ha-vahd, but I'll definetly look into Brown - thanks for the info!

Ninjew: Heh, yeah - the SAT II's are the subject tests. But music school, eh? Sounds exciting - music school sounds so awesome, but I feel (at least in my case) that pursuing music as a career would totally throw my life out of balance. Plus, my parents would not approve..haha, asian parents.

Well, hope you guys who took the SAT's did well on em'! We get our scores back in like..2 weeks, right?

EDIT

Anybody applying to any UC schools? (University of California, aka Berkely, UCLA, UCSD, etc)

[Wolf Pup TK]

In think that it's worth your time to apply to any college that you think you've got even a 2% chance of getting into. I was really skeptical about getting into an Ivy, too. Also be sure that you really nail your essay. It depends on the college, but for many colleges it can be critical. Heck, it's pretty much the only thing that distinguishes you from everyone else.

[Sforzando]

Too true - essay is key. Although for the UC schools, they pretty much only look at your SAT's, and your GPA. They don't care about who you are - just about how you look on paper. Go UC.
Blargh.

[Chowder]

I'm going to Portland Community College right now, but I'm taking classes to transfer over to the Pacific Northwest College of Art.

Of course, there's all the old jokes about art schools ("How did you get into art college?!" "Same as everyone else, I failed me exams and they snapped me up.") but then again, I think that trigonometry and English composition are utterly useless so perhaps there really wasn't any other answer for me.

[shawnson]

Applying at UofToronto, York (Schulich), McMaster and Wilfrid Laurier for their Bcomm/BBA programs. Currently holding a 90 average, so I'll probably get into a few.

If I get into Laurier, I'll probably go there. It rocks.

[Sapphire]

Took my SATs and ACTs twice for good measure, not sure what i'll use to apply (Scores in ~25th). I need to talk to some of my teachers and research up a good pre-med college. I worry that I should have looked into it earlier to make sure I didn't have to take any SAT Subject Tests. D:

The University of Hawaii at Manoa was looking awfully friendly though... I'm not sure if it's just because it has a fairly decent medical program, or because it's Hawaii; and tuition isn't terrible at all. (Western Undergraduate Exchange in the hizzouse, y'all.)

[Hobbygoblin]

I'm Canadian, so I didn't do an SAT. I'm currently attending Humber for Comedy: Writing and Performance.

[Valkor]

Took my SATs and ACTs twice for good measure, not sure what i'll use to apply (Scores in ~25th). I need to talk to some of my teachers and research up a good pre-med college. I worry that I should have looked into it earlier to make sure I didn't have to take any SAT Subject Tests. D:

The University of Hawaii at Manoa was looking awfully friendly though... I'm not sure if it's just because it has a fairly decent medical program, or because it's Hawaii; and tuition isn't terrible at all. (Western Undergraduate Exchange in the hizzouse, y'all.)

If you want to go to a good pre-med university go to one that offers a chemical engineering degree. A lot of doctors come from bio, but they are second choice to chemies. You'll also need a good background in Organic Chemistry and Circuits regardless.

I'm sure I have mentioned it before. I am a petroleum engineer attending the Colorado School of Mines. 60K year starting minimum right out of college and classes that are impossible to BS through. This is both why I can be cranky and cocky. Cranky when I get a real engineering assignment and cocky when I complete said assignment.

At some point in my life I am aware I cared about my SAT's and ACT's to get into college and was concerned about writing an essay and all that other garbage. My high school had about 95% of my senior class attend college and on average about 85% completion average. College was not now nor has it ever been a choice for me because it is the environment I grew up in. However, I will say that getting a trade degree in, say, welding, is going to be infinitely more valuable then a degree in a bunch of the soft stuff so many people seem to major in for some reason I can't quite comprehend. (Communications, lol.)

[Tiki]

SATs are scary.

[themark5]

I go to FullSail, they don't care about SATs

I almost went there but I heard they shove you into classes at like midnight.

[Tweekit]

University of British Columbia, represent
Holla' son.

That's where I plan on going. What campus are you on?

I have a harsh test period come January, with Science, English 30-1 and Social 30-1 all within the same time period. I shit you not.

It goes like this.

Day One
Science 30 Morning
Social Written Afternoon

Day Two
English Multiple Morning
Social Multiple Afternoon

Day Three
English Multiple Morning
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But, I'll technically be cleared for graduation. Have some Pure Math and Proffessionalism in the Arts courses next semester, but they're small potatoes really. One math final seems like it should be a breeze in comparison for the gauntlet I'll be writing soon.

To directly answer the question, I'm looking at schools in the BC area. Specifically, U of Victoria, U of BC (Okanagan), or some other campuses I'm forgetting. I was considering writing or design, but my writing's been hitting a wall these days, so designs looking like the more likely concept.

[Atlarge]

I got a 1530 on my SAT with no preparation. That said, my grades sucked.


College of Charleston. (http://www.cofc.edu/)

[Sandor]

Valkor there are plenty of reasons to major in a bachelor of art. If it’s straight job prospects you can go straight on to becoming an officer in any branch with good pay or join the police and make between £34,000 and £40,000 in London after a year. There’s also the fact that if you want to go into certain career paths a degree in the subject is massively beneficial/ a requirement to actually get anywhere. Finally there is the learning for learning’s sake and because the degree fascinates you.

If foreigners may post here? I’m hoping to do Philosophy/English literature joint at either Kent or Oxford Brooks. Both are good Universities which have highly regarded department in the area I want to study and lack the second class degrees (media and the like) to a great extent. I’ve also applied to Cambridge although that’s a shot in the dark although it would be rather brilliant to go to one of the top three universities in the world.

[Valkor]

Fair enough. I should have clarified I meant a BA in any of those things. A masters+ I will always respect (unless it is something particularly abhorrent.)

But I still refuse to acknowledge communications majors above GED's. In my states case, I guess replace communications with sociology majors.

[Sandor]

GED = 17-18 right? because that's a given. It's pretty interesting over here. In government efforts to raise numbers applying to college we're getting a two university system instead of a dumbing down of existing subjects. Failed at school and have no A-levels? That doesn't matter if you're applying to many film or art courses.

[Valkor]

GED = 17-18 right? because that's a given. It's pretty interesting over here. In government efforts to raise numbers applying to college we're getting a two university system instead of a dumbing down of existing subjects. Failed at school and have no A-levels? That doesn't matter if you're applying to many film or art courses.

A GED is a degree you get that represents a high school diploma if you haven't graduated from high school. It opens up just about all trade schools and community colleges. Most real colleges are willing to accept students who proved themselves in community colleges and what not. The main issue, and this has been occurring on a national level, is that Colorado demands that

A. Majors cannot have any more then 140 credits
-and-
B. Degrees must be attainable in 4 years.

The obvious response from my university has been removing classes that aren't necessary, combining other classes into one (thus ultra difficult classes that don't represent the credit hours you get for them) and other little tricks to give a giant fuck you to the state. Some universities in other states are accepting this trend and doing things like teaching algebra-based statics and fluid mechanics and so on.

[Chowder]

Fair enough. I should have clarified I meant a BA in any of those things. A masters+ I will always respect (unless it is something particularly abhorrent.)

But I still refuse to acknowledge communications majors above GED's. In my states case, I guess replace communications with sociology majors.

Some things, like philosophy, don't really deserve a degree, no. But if you're willing to believe my parents, and this next bit is especially true of a field like art where the helpfulness of a degree in terms of job skills is largely a subjective funcion, if you get a Bachelor's degree in anything (it can, apparently, be completely anachronistic to the field you actually go into), you can then go on to tell a potential employer, "Lookee here, Pollo del Baño, I have Bachelor's degree, you pay me more money toot sweet chop chop," and they'll do it, and even favor you over someone who can prove that he's had twenty years apprenticeship to an expert in the field he's looking to go into despite having no formal training. Of course, as I say, this information comes from my parents, and while my parents have a lot of insight that relies on common sense, the model of real life often proves them terribly, horribly wrong.

In fact, some of this seems to fly in the face of common sense and real life already, especially the bit about a mechanic employing someone who's got a degree in mathematics instead of someone who's had twenty years experience working with an expert mechanic and learning from them. So, if it allows you to live off your parents' nickel longer, believe my parents. If you have to pay your own way, completely ignore my parents' advice and do something that actually sound like it'd help you get the job.

[Sandor]

Some things, like philosophy, don't really deserve a degree, no..
If anything needs a degree it's philosophy. It's the original degree and teaches you one of the most important things you can learn. How to think.

[Chowder]

If anything needs a degree it's philosophy. It's the original degree and teaches you one of the most important things you can learn. How to think.

Actually my thinking was that philosophy in and of itself doesn't need a degree. As a series of classes included in a different degree, yes, learning to think can be a valuable thing, but here's the catch-everyone already knows how to think. It's just that they lose the ability as they grow older, becoming a being known as an "American," which is known the world over for being a moron. Once you have become an American, it is very hard if not nigh impossible to regain the capability to think, meaning that, if philosophy as an additive to another degree isn't going to help, a philosophy degree isn't going to do you any more good.

[Sandor]

Actually my thinking was that philosophy in and of itself doesn't need a degree. As a series of classes included in a different degree, yes, learning to think can be a valuable thing, but here's the catch-everyone already knows how to think. It's just that they lose the ability as they grow older, becoming a being known as an "American," which is known the world over for being a moron. Once you have become an American, it is very hard if not nigh impossible to regain the capability to think, meaning that, if philosophy as an additive to another degree isn't going to help, a philosophy degree isn't going to do you any more good.
No very few people actually know how to think in a logical and rational way. Learning how to think properly is important in everything from science and engineering to programming and police work. Philosophy makes you challenge your beliefs to the core. Indeed it makes for better people.

[Chowder]

No very few people actually know how to think in a logical and rational way. Learning how to think properly is important in everything from science and engineering to programming and police work. Philosophy makes you challenge your beliefs to the core. Indeed it makes for better people.

Nah, ask a kid (like, four or five years old) anything. They will give it due rational thought based on their knowledge of the situation, then give it due irrational thought because rational thought rarely leads to an actual intelligent answer, then they'll give you your answer. It may be off the wall; it may be completely wrong. But, the kid has given you an intelligent answer based on what the kid knows about the question (this may be "I don't know," but at least they tried, unlike most adults). Ergo, people already know how to think; in the process of learning the things that allow them to come up with the right answer more often, they lose this ability. So yeah, teaching philosophy is a good thing, but I think a better method is to alter the way we teach everything else; this results in people not losing the ability to think.

[Valkor]

People are not rational.

The reason so many Germans looked the other way as Jewish families disappeared and even elected officials that promised to do this is because while most of the country was in a grinding poverty due to WW1, Jewish families got a long relatively well. They assumed that this correlation was also causation.

A sociologist made headlines when he stated that 1% of all people in America were homeless and overnight the united states had a homeless problem. Did anyone care to think about that for more then half a second? Obviously not.

Most people are not critical thinkers. They assume the simplest and nicest possible answer with no regard for what the truth may be. Why the fuck do you think every time somebody posts a stupid headline I explore every alternative instead of accepting the "LOL AMERICA IS T3H RETARTED" answer.