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AAsama
02-18-2009, 09:12 AM
Lets keep all relevant shit about the scoot update here, so we dont split it between the two general threads all up ins. We can do this, we have the SECTION/TECHNOLOGY.

The Page (http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate)

Melee Replacement: The Sandman (http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/sandman.htm)
New maps: Watchtower and Junction (http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/watchtower_and_junction.htm)
Pistol replacement: Bonk! Energy drink!
Achievments

AAsama
02-18-2009, 09:14 AM
In before smokebombs as pistol replacement.

Affinity
02-18-2009, 09:34 AM
In before new game mode.

AAsama
02-18-2009, 09:36 AM
Like what? VIP? Survival? INSTAGIB?

Shunt
02-18-2009, 09:37 AM
Probably a new map or two as well.

AAsama
02-18-2009, 09:38 AM
And meet the medic?

Axon Griegor
02-18-2009, 09:44 AM
Or Meet the Pyro?

AAsama
02-18-2009, 09:45 AM
I heard they were working on Meet the Medic long time ago, but then Meet the Sniper came out instead.

Heard, as in got an answer from Gabe saying they were working on Meet the Medic.

Affinity
02-18-2009, 09:45 AM
Like what? VIP? Survival? INSTAGIB?

Ghostbusters. Duh.

AAsama
02-18-2009, 09:46 AM
we should get royalties.

Affinity
02-18-2009, 09:47 AM
we should get royalties.

I'm thinking a flamethrower for scout as our thanks. ;3

AAsama
02-18-2009, 09:50 AM
Exclusive to the mang server, ofcourse.

Affinity
02-18-2009, 09:52 AM
Nah, Steam account specific, so we can go to others server and make people rage at super fast double jumping pyros.

Skee
02-18-2009, 10:01 AM
Scoot will get his nailgun

there is no doubt about this in my mind

AAsama
02-18-2009, 10:08 AM
Suppose it would make sense.

Skee
02-18-2009, 10:09 AM
Lower damage to people higher damage to engineers shit

As a trade off the pistol should be nerfed against mechanicals though

Gado
02-18-2009, 10:17 AM
scoot should get a scattergun that shoots sappers that don't do damage : O

AAsama
02-18-2009, 10:18 AM
Woah there, not gonna happen anymore.
Seems too drastic for valve.

Skee
02-18-2009, 10:26 AM
I dont get why you'd ever use that stun bat

I suppose it's valve trying to make scoot more of a defensive option, but losing doublejump = useless on steel B|

Affinity
02-18-2009, 10:30 AM
Then use it on every other map lol.

Далтон
02-18-2009, 10:32 AM
I dont get why you'd ever use that stun bat

I suppose it's valve trying to make scoot more of a defensive option, but losing doublejump = useless on steel B|

It's situational as hell, like I wouldn't use it on Steel, but dustbawls is a definite sandman situation for me.

Also it's been officially announced that they have a new payload map for us, a new gamemode, and if memory serves more community maps and more alpine theming.

Also I wouldn't mind the nailgun at all. It's easy to see why they'd remove it in favour of the scattergun, but with the class updates it seems highly plausible.

Skee
02-18-2009, 10:33 AM
new payload map is cranetop :awesome:

AAsama
02-18-2009, 10:35 AM
No way :awesome:
No forward spawnpoints.

Skee
02-18-2009, 10:36 AM
Cranetop_v2 :awesome:

Далтон
02-18-2009, 10:48 AM
As for the Sandman, not entirely sure if it's a good tradeoff, but hopefully Valve's done a good job.

Certainly an interesting way to include a conc-style effect without WHOOOOAAAAAA FLYING SCOOTS

beer pope
02-18-2009, 10:49 AM
scoot should get a scattergun that shoots sappers that don't do damage : OIt would be pretty retarded to give a class a way to beat its hard counter.

Далтон
02-18-2009, 10:50 AM
It would be pretty retarded to give a class a way to beat its hard counter.

thank you that was the joke

Gado
02-18-2009, 10:51 AM
It would be pretty retarded to give a class a way to beat its hard counter.

you lose one points

also fuk da police I just want my new game mode

AAsama
02-18-2009, 11:21 AM
Yes, but what game mode?

Bromang
02-18-2009, 11:23 AM
Deathmatch

PaintedBlackCloud
02-18-2009, 11:31 AM
Oh boy this is gonna be saweet.

Gado
02-18-2009, 11:44 AM
escort mode please

Bromang
02-18-2009, 11:47 AM
escort mode please

Payload. The escort mode from TFC sucked really fucking hard.
It was shit easy to kill the civilian.

AAsama
02-18-2009, 11:52 AM
Zombie-mode

Bromang
02-18-2009, 12:02 PM
Merge L4D and TF2. Oh god yes, scatter gun on zombies.

Gado
02-18-2009, 12:03 PM
Zombie-mode

oh shit this this this

Skee
02-18-2009, 12:05 PM
Nacht Der Untoten plz

AAsama
02-18-2009, 12:06 PM
Left-9-Dead, you heard it here first.

Gado
02-18-2009, 12:23 PM
need a pipe bomb here

AAsama
02-18-2009, 12:26 PM
Ghrabbing peels, dumkoffs

Exalt
02-18-2009, 12:54 PM
You guys is crazy

MayuZane
02-18-2009, 01:10 PM
You guys is crazy

Old news.

Affinity
02-18-2009, 01:11 PM
Left-9-Dead, you heard it here first.

Team 4-tress.

AAsama
02-18-2009, 01:34 PM
Team 4-tress.

Sold.

Далтон
02-18-2009, 03:42 PM
I head that the guy from SA who predicted the Heavy's minigun unlock before it was revealed posted again. He claims that today the new gamemode, a heavily revised version of Hunted, will be revealed, and it will include both the Civilian and a third team.

I diagnose 50 CCs of this (http://i42.tinypic.com/ae2kc5.jpg) to be taken with this post, especially since payload was made to replace Hunted, but it is still interesting nonetheless.

Johnny
02-18-2009, 03:56 PM
Please let him be right oh GOD PLEASE

Далтон
02-18-2009, 03:59 PM
Please let him be right oh GOD PLEASE

I honestly wouldn't mind it myself; even if it's unbalanced as hell, it is downright high-larious fun.

Kash
02-18-2009, 04:02 PM
VIP is awesome, also I don't think the Scout's main gun will be Nail gun, wasn't that what they were originally going to give him, but found it didn't suit him?

Skee
02-18-2009, 04:07 PM
VIP is awesome, also I don't think the Scout's main gun will be Nail gun, wasn't that what they were originally going to give him, but found it didn't suit him?

Pistol replacement.

The nailguns model has been left in the game since beta, as have the sticky gibs and one of the flaregun designs, it just seems a logical step

Johnny
02-18-2009, 04:16 PM
Well the next bit of info is going to be revealed today so lets wait and find out

AAsama
02-18-2009, 04:21 PM
Cant Wait Any Longer. I Want Valve Time

Sanjiyan
02-18-2009, 04:22 PM
I'd like Hunted, just to see Green or Yellow put in an appearance
I wonder what their team acronyms would be

burningzombie
02-18-2009, 04:26 PM
Pistol replacement.

The nailguns model has been left in the game since beta, as have the sticky gibs and one of the flaregun designs, it just seems a logical step

And if you look at the dispenser real close, you can see nail gun ammo in there.

Loy
02-18-2009, 04:44 PM
No double jump...

NO DOUBLE JUMP?!


FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU

AAsama
02-18-2009, 05:15 PM
Its out!

New maps (http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/watchtower_and_junction.htm)

Edit:

yeah, we JUST added watchtower. Seems even valve agrees that its a good arena map.

Далтон
02-18-2009, 05:19 PM
>Arena_Watchtower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkbq18u9sxw&fmt=18

Gado
02-18-2009, 05:21 PM
I waited all day for a map we already just added and another map I don't care about where is my SCOOT BONKSCATTER

AAsama
02-18-2009, 05:24 PM
Well atleast we got the most boring update out of the way.
Only good things to wait for now.

Gado
02-18-2009, 05:26 PM
I can't wait any longer, lives are on the fuckin' line

Exalt
02-18-2009, 05:27 PM
Its out!

New maps (http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/watchtower_and_junction.htm)

Edit:

yeah, we JUST added watchtower. Seems even valve agrees that its a good arena map.

Teh link is broken, why is this?

Далтон
02-18-2009, 05:29 PM
Well atleast we got the most boring update out of the way.
Only good things to wait for now.

Yup!

Could almost guarantee it's gonna go out like this:

1: Melee weapon (derp done)
2: Community Maps (derp)
3: Primary OR Secondary weapon Sidegrade
4: "Meet the" Video, the new Payload map
5: Whichever weapon is left
6: The new gameplay vidya

Achievements could be stuck anywhere into there but yeah the dullest update has certainly passed.

AAsama
02-18-2009, 05:31 PM
Link isnt broken, the page is just beeing raped by millions of people.

Далтон
02-18-2009, 05:33 PM
Link isnt broken, the page is just beeing raped by millions of people.

yup

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8154/123499526828dk5.jpg

there u go

Affinity
02-18-2009, 05:37 PM
Blarg, I'm going to miss some update days because of JSA.

Далтон
02-18-2009, 05:41 PM
It's not like the updates are going anywhere

Affinity
02-18-2009, 05:43 PM
But I'll miss the novelty of it ;-;

I hate DC anyway.

Sanjiyan
02-18-2009, 06:39 PM
Arena

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h203/ExtantSanjiyan/1230746438288.jpg

stop pushing this shit on us you faggots

Taxi
02-18-2009, 08:46 PM
Gotta say I'm glad we get another Arena map. I love arena, it's a good fun break from the constant point capturing.

Exalt
02-18-2009, 09:09 PM
If only arena maps lasted 15 minutes instead of the normal 30, then I would actually like it.

Affinity
02-18-2009, 09:13 PM
If only arena maps lasted 15 minutes instead of the normal 30, then I would actually like it.

This would be nice. I kind of imagined the admins would have these powers too.

Vaah
02-18-2009, 10:26 PM
May or may not be a shop. (http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u79/halensheetrock/scoutupdatescopyky8.jpg)

Shunt
02-18-2009, 10:44 PM
Junction looks killar.

Sanjiyan
02-19-2009, 01:43 AM
It isn't a shop Vooh :V

Gado
02-19-2009, 02:15 AM
what makes me a good medic

also wat

Narok
02-19-2009, 03:00 AM
Scattergun replacement should be a gun that fires homing bullets that always hit their target and always crit and act as sappers if they hit a building, except they can't be removed by any means and if an engineer is standing too close to his sentry when it breaks it'll explode and kill him instantly and make him skip a wave of respawns.

The trade-off: the Scout becomes completely and totally immobile while wielding it. And he can't unequip it. And he can't change classes. He's stuck as an immobile scout for all eternity.

AAsama
02-19-2009, 04:11 AM
[quote=Narok;1409636]Tower defence fortress 2quote]

Gado
02-19-2009, 04:31 AM
quote=Narok;1409636]Tower defence fortress 2quote]



teehee

Bromang
02-19-2009, 04:33 AM
I looked around yesterday and had a guess that hunted was the new game mode when I checked valves how to make tf2 maps wiki.

http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/TF2/Hunted_Gametype

But even here it says it's kind of unbalanced. Heck I don't know. As I said earlier. The escort mode in TFC wasn't that much liked.

Sanjiyan
02-19-2009, 04:37 AM
Yeah Hunted was just constant dickery
that's kind of why I want to play it

In before Crabvilian

The Ultimate Doughnut
02-19-2009, 04:39 AM
constant dickery


http://i42.tinypic.com/2prxnom.jpg

Gado
02-19-2009, 05:16 AM
I am kinda disappointed if the civilian is just a blu engineer, fuk dat shit.

The Ultimate Doughnut
02-19-2009, 05:18 AM
I would be disappointed if the civilian is just a blu engineer, fuk dat shit.

*pop*

Bromang
02-19-2009, 06:04 AM
Yeah Hunted was just constant dickery
that's kind of why I want to play it

In before Crabvilian

If it is hunted i am curious how it'll be in TF2 though so I guess I am excited for it.

Gado
02-19-2009, 06:17 AM
*pop*

rage dot jay peg

AAsama
02-19-2009, 09:00 AM
Fuck it, if ZOMBIE-MODO isnt the new gamemode(which it probably isnt), im gonna MAKE/PAY someone to make a new game mode for l4d. A mode where the four survivors are replaced with a random character from TF2 with all weapons and sounds and such.

Skee
02-19-2009, 10:47 AM
Told you he'd get his nailgun

...if that isn't a shop <..<

AAsama
02-19-2009, 10:59 AM
We will be one step closer to the truth of this...shop... tonight.

Gado
02-19-2009, 11:11 AM
nailguns are for GAYS

AAsama
02-19-2009, 12:20 PM
Are you sure?

Gado
02-19-2009, 12:26 PM
yes I have spent hundreds of hours researching this

AAsama
02-19-2009, 01:03 PM
My god....
This must not leave this section of the forum, widespread panic would ensue.

What are our options?

Sanjiyan
02-19-2009, 01:09 PM
Iunno.

Bees?

Gado
02-19-2009, 01:18 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/GadoTheLion999/options.png

We have five options, Sir.

Shadow Turkey
02-19-2009, 01:21 PM
My god....
This must not leave this section of the forum, widespread panic would ensue.

What are our options?

http://forum.vgcats.com/showpost.php?p=1409770&postcount=56379

AAsama
02-19-2009, 01:21 PM
I choose B for Bees.
Make it happen.

Edit: Its spreading! Deploy bees A.S.A.P!

Gado
02-19-2009, 01:22 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/GadoTheLion999/beeman.jpg
Releasing Beeman now.

Shadow Turkey
02-19-2009, 01:26 PM
I've done a horrible thing, and it feels good.

AAsama
02-19-2009, 01:28 PM
We will deal with you later.
Right now we are waiting for Valve time for confirmation.

Vaah
02-19-2009, 02:17 PM
Releasing Beeman now.

I'm not asian?

Bromang
02-19-2009, 02:36 PM
NEXT GUN IS BEE GUN. It's a machine gun that shoots bees and if the bees hit they will swarm the enemy causing continuous damage for 10 seconds.

You heard it here first.

Далтон
02-19-2009, 03:43 PM
I would think that image is a shop seeing as I can't figure out how they'd even GET a full image. Then again they had to test and make sure the image looked good before making it all COMING WEDNESDAY COMING THURSDAY etc.

We'll find out whether or not it's a shop today, in which case FORK YEAR HUNTED AND NAILGUN.

Seriously hunted reminds me of versus in L4D because you're hardly even meant to finish the level as much as you all just compare on how far you each got and laugh at the silly fun and paranoia along the way.

Далтон
02-19-2009, 04:48 PM
http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/energydrink.htm

10/10 will rage again

worst community idea and it GOT THROUGH

Kash
02-19-2009, 04:53 PM
wow that is RETARDED

AAsama
02-19-2009, 04:55 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/AAsama/asdas1.png

Далтон
02-19-2009, 04:55 PM
also look at the background

PAYLOAD RACE CONFIRMED FOR BRAWL

AAsama
02-19-2009, 04:57 PM
Oh shit, new gamemode.

Далтон
02-19-2009, 05:01 PM
Payload race could bring Balloon Race to all new extremes

Axon Griegor
02-19-2009, 05:02 PM
Oh shit, new gamemode.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And about the energy drink, I heard about that idea some time ago in the tf2 forums.

I like the name of 2 achievements: First Blood and First Blood, part two.

AAsama
02-19-2009, 05:03 PM
I wonder, will Bonk! be the scout's backburner?
"Bonk! SKILLdrink morelike lololol" perhaps?

Далтон
02-19-2009, 05:06 PM
more like useless

I see very little use on offence or defence, especially if that "lethargy/fatigue" they were hinting at in the side effects is true. I could see it being used in dustbowl to make it to the second point immediately after the first point is captured, and in defence on like gravelpit for annoying the shit out of a heavy, but that's it really.

But the true question is: Payload Race. New gamemode? Or rather being considered as the new Payload map?

Axon Griegor
02-19-2009, 05:07 PM
Payload race I think.

Далтон
02-19-2009, 05:09 PM
Cavil says:
I bet they put that in there just to keep people from raging TOO hard
Micolithe! says:
ahahaha yeah
Micolithe! says:
oh well heres a thing that makes the fastest class in the game go faster but without the pistol HOWEVER heres a cool game mode so you dont kill us

Axon Griegor
02-19-2009, 05:14 PM
Haha I find the thread of the Energy drink:

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=767847

Taxi
02-19-2009, 05:16 PM
Oh god,energy drink. That's awesome!
I don't understand the rage about it, not much of a difference between this and the sandvich, other than this one giving you more speed. It's useful and pretty funny :)

Micolithe
02-19-2009, 05:18 PM
I can't think of any situations where faster running speed would be better than the loss of an accurate weapon except for the things already mentioned.

AAsama
02-19-2009, 05:20 PM
faster running speed and bullet dodging?
getting away from heavies? closing in on snipers? slipping past sentry-farms?

Taxi
02-19-2009, 05:25 PM
faster running speed and bullet dodging?
getting away from heavies? closing in on snipers? slipping past sentry-farms?

No no Aasama, there are NO good things about this, for some reason.

A.N.D.S
02-19-2009, 05:26 PM
more like useless

I see very little use on offence or defence, especially if that "lethargy/fatigue" they were hinting at in the side effects is true. I could see it being used in dustbowl to make it to the second point immediately after the first point is captured, and in defence on like gravelpit for annoying the shit out of a heavy, but that's it really.


Every thought of 2Fort, where the annoying sentry guns are in the battlements area and you can't pass it without dying. That's when you need it.

My question is will it be able to dodge melle attacks and the flamethrower?

Unggoy
02-19-2009, 05:28 PM
How long does BONK! last before it wears off?

Axon Griegor
02-19-2009, 05:28 PM
http://i40.tinypic.com/24o0mf7.jpg

New weapon?

Далтон
02-19-2009, 05:28 PM
I doubt the energy drink actually makes you invincible to bullets, but rather makes it harder for them to hit you.

If it's like a temporary uber than LOL ENJOY YOUR OVERPOWERED

Micolithe
02-19-2009, 05:30 PM
Okay lets say you use Bonk and then you're gonna try and take out a sentry.

So you run fast enough to avoid the bullets, however you're moving so fast how can you possibly aim with enough accuracy to hit the sentry?

Далтон
02-19-2009, 05:31 PM
http://i40.tinypic.com/24o0mf7.jpg

New weapon?

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5779/123508253358rr3.jpg

maybe

START YOUR ENGINES

also when you see it

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9585/123508243655xv2.png

Gado
02-19-2009, 05:41 PM
if it makes me faster I will abuse it like the fist of the north star just to ZOOM ZOOM

King
02-19-2009, 05:41 PM
I doubt the energy drink actually makes you invincible to bullets, but rather makes it harder for them to hit you.

If it's like a temporary uber than LOL ENJOY YOUR OVERPOWERED

Well there is the MISS MISS MISS like crit messages. I think its like the Sandman with a possibly huge bonus with a possibly huge draw back (you could be moving as slow as the heavy after it wears off).

Also that looks like a breach load shotgun, possible it has the firing rate of the sniper rifle but does a lot more damage? These new weapons seem to make the scout more of a glass cannon, or better yet a lighting bolt: one brilliant powerful flash and then nothing.

Micolithe
02-19-2009, 05:42 PM
Oh god I just thought of something. I wonder how many people are preparing a "zoom zoom zoom" micspam (like from those mazda commercials) for when the update hits. I shudder to think.

ChopperDave
02-19-2009, 05:44 PM
Oh god I just thought of something. I wonder how many people are preparing a "zoom zoom zoom" micspam (like from those mazda commercials) for when the update hits. I shudder to think.

On it.

King
02-19-2009, 05:46 PM
look what you just did mico

Micolithe
02-19-2009, 05:47 PM
If I didn't think of it someone else would have. And you know what, better ChopperDave than someone else.

HotPuppy
02-19-2009, 05:53 PM
More like, zoom zoom from Bolt.

Далтон
02-19-2009, 05:54 PM
Well there is the MISS MISS MISS like crit messages. I think its like the Sandman with a possibly huge bonus with a possibly huge draw back (you could be moving as slow as the heavy after it wears off).

They could've just put that there as means of getting the point across.

MayuZane
02-19-2009, 05:55 PM
If using that drink automatically makes you immune to bullets I'll definitely use it to bypass sentries/heavies.

Далтон
02-19-2009, 05:58 PM
At any rate, so far I feel pretty unsure about the update, but then again I felt unsure at all of the Heavy's weapons but now I love them so yeah.

also retards are speculating the energy drink will be an alt-fire for the main scattergun due to the scattergun being equipped in that screenshot, while the alt scattergun won't have it a la backburner

Gado
02-19-2009, 06:05 PM
At any rate, so far I feel pretty unsure about the update, but then again I felt unsure at all of the Heavy's weapons but now I love them so yeah.

also retards are speculating the energy drink will be an alt-fire for the main scattergun due to the scattergun being equipped in that screenshot, while the alt scattergun won't have it a la backburner

am

am I raging

it's the secondary alt why would it be an alt fire awawawawawa FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

ChopperDave
02-19-2009, 06:05 PM
Wait are we not supposed to see the descriptions for the achievements yet?

Далтон
02-19-2009, 06:08 PM
Wait are we not supposed to see the descriptions for the achievements yet?

Well think about it. A lot of achievements are like "Get three ______ while using the ________" and it might reveal details of the new scatterbutt before desired

Unggoy
02-19-2009, 11:00 PM
Come on scatterbonker...*crosses fingers*

Victoly
02-19-2009, 11:15 PM
Come on scatterbonker...*crosses fingers*

Fuck dat, nailgun beats that shit.

Johnny
02-19-2009, 11:16 PM
Probably a few seconds or infinitely. Frankly, I think getting juiced up and being able to personally beat the shit out of Gado with my bat will be worth the loss of a pistol if for on the fact that I finally get to rub that smile off his gay nigga face. >: (

klein
02-19-2009, 11:34 PM
Just imagine 10 scouts out of the gate, all hyped up on bonk. Dear god, sentries will fail, heavies will be bonked, and nothing can stop the horror that is the scatterbonk. Then the after effects kick in and everyone dies. I am thinking it will be like the sandvich where it can be used an unlimited number of times, but still have its drawbacks.

Johnny
02-19-2009, 11:37 PM
The sandvich has no drawbacks other than it takes 3 seconds to eat.

klein
02-19-2009, 11:41 PM
That and losing the shotgun, which from my play style isn't very vital. Well all we can do is wait I guess. Fuck ya racing payload, I wonder how this will play out.

Vaah
02-19-2009, 11:51 PM
Just imagine 10 scouts out of the gate, all hyped up on bonk. Dear god, sentries will fail, heavies will be bonked, and nothing can stop the horror that is the scatterbonk. Then the after effects kick in and everyone dies. I am thinking it will be like the sandvich where it can be used an unlimited number of times, but still have its drawbacks.

Then when the bonk wears off, it's like shooting scoots in a barrel.

The Bear Burrito
02-19-2009, 11:55 PM
Great update or greatest update?

Loy
02-20-2009, 12:25 AM
Okay, this energy drink idea is awesome.

Can you say "up yours, natachsa heavy"? I can say "up yours, natachsa heavy"

Also circlestrafing sentries will now be godly easy to any half decent scout Mico. And the pistol is mainly used for killing snipers, scouts, and sentries anyway. The energy drink will make all those easier for a short amount of time. Assuming the slowdown isn't too bad, You'll probably see me running around with one of these on hand constantly.

Plus, assuming either hitting the baseball or using the energy drink is instantanious, this will actually make the sandman useful. The increased speed will still allow you to jump long distances, so losing the double jump will no longer be TOO detrimental. I can see stun then rush happening a LOT. I am now re-excited for this update.

Shunt
02-20-2009, 09:56 AM
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/917/firstbloodby2.png (http://imageshack.us)

Jesus.

Also if that list of achievement descriptions floating around is accurate then scattergun replacement kicks ass. And the cola's not too bad I guess.

Exalt
02-20-2009, 09:59 AM
It's an uber in a can, with speedboost.

Gado
02-20-2009, 10:18 AM
It's an uber in a can, with speedboost.

this is stupid

why do I keep hearing people talk about it as if it's going to actually make you invincible awawawawa

also fuck you johnny I'm going to drink twice as much of this shit as you are

Skee
02-20-2009, 10:28 AM
Energy drink is a horrible idea, it would just crumble a defense if you had a few scouts, UNLESS it just gives a chance to miss, which is oh ok

Gado
02-20-2009, 10:31 AM
I'm under the impression that it just gives the scoot a ZOOM ZOOM boost for a while.

AAsama
02-20-2009, 10:32 AM
ZOOM ZOOM with a chance to outsmart boolet.

Gado
02-20-2009, 10:34 AM
ZOOM ZOOM with a chance to outsmart boolet.

Doing circles around these unbalance thirsty. And to quench this thirst nothing like a bumper to Bonk! Thermonuclear drink! It's full of radiation which is rather good, as everyone knows, to give super powers. A small bobbin you a few seconds to nuclear energy as if the enemy bullets do not exist.

teehee

Skee
02-20-2009, 10:35 AM
To counteract this menice pyros should be able to use all their poof at once and completely blow away everything on the map

<:3c

Candin
02-20-2009, 10:37 AM
Energy drink is a horrible idea, it would just crumble a defense if you had a few scouts, UNLESS it just gives a chance to miss, which is oh ok

I think it sounds pretty balanced. A few seconds of blissful speedboost/ invulnerability to bullets followed by painful slowdown making the scoot a giant "HEY HIT ME" sign.

To counteract this menice pyros should be able to use all their poof at once and completely blow away everything on the map

<:3c

You say this like the Pyro is a good class.

Gado
02-20-2009, 10:42 AM
I think it sounds pretty balanced. A few seconds of blissful speedboost/ invulnerability to bullets followed by painful slowdown making the scoot a giant "HEY HIT ME" sign.



You say this like the Pyro is a good class.

am i

am I raging again

also that reminds me of this idea I had. Heavies should be able to stack double crit effects like the KGB, Kritzkrieg, and the instant criticals you get when you win a round, whenever he has 2 or more of those affecting him at once, whenever he punches someone it should have an explosion like the end of a payload map that kills everyone near him, red or blu.

Skee
02-20-2009, 10:43 AM
I think it sounds pretty balanced. A few seconds of blissful speedboost/ invulnerability to bullets followed by painful slowdown making the scoot a giant "HEY HIT ME" sign.

Consider how much damage the scootergan does, it would be lethal to allow a scoot to run amok in such a way D:

You say this like the Pyro is a good class.
You say that like you ever play when I'm playing Pyro ;3

Gado
02-20-2009, 10:47 AM
also while the heavy is under super double crits he should have a .1 percent chance of getting a critical hit and if he does and hits with it his team wins

Psychosis
02-20-2009, 11:12 AM
I'm guessing it does make you immune to bullets, but NOT explosions and fire.

So, yeah, you can run past Sentries and heavies, but I doubt you could bat a Sentry to death before it blows you up with missles.

Skee
02-20-2009, 11:32 AM
BLU_SCOUT used quick attack!

It's super effective!

RED_TEAM fainted!

SKEE blacked out!

PaintedBlackCloud
02-20-2009, 11:33 AM
I really want to play again.

Loy
02-20-2009, 11:54 AM
you guys.

Just one can’ll blast ya into a few-second rush of radioactive energy so powerful you’ll be dodgin’ bullets like they ain’t even there!

Pretty sure it's JUST a speed boost. anything else is overpoweredly retarded. I'm pretty sure the miss thing was just put there to show "hey he's avoiding bullets" in a still frame.

As a matter of fact if he does become immune to bullets scouts will become completely ineffective against other scouts. wat


EDIT: oh god bonk an eating heavy
http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/images/AchievementIcons/dodgers_1_giants_0.png

Skee
02-20-2009, 12:28 PM
They wouldn't put it in unless it meant something.

Далтон
02-20-2009, 02:02 PM
Am I the only one who thinks the PL_Race will be the new payload map and not the game mode? Still kinda hoping for hunted =<

Anyways I thought the invulnerability theory was pretty stupid at first, then some Russian fansite supposedly got the leaked achievement info.

Artful Dodger - Get 1000 "missed" damage during 1 life

I know this should be taken with a pinch of salt, but still, that means it's...

it's...

possible.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6109/s4yj2bkqa5eqgznrl2hisu6mj5.jpg

However, if these leaked achievements are actually true, some interesting things:

Beanball - Stun scout with his own ball
BASEBALL, HOOOO!~
Quick Hook - kill an enemy on Well before the round starts
here's hoping blu gets the lamps that red does so blu scouts could actually get over the trains
Out of the Park - Bat the enemy so he flies 25 meters
Sandman = Knockback? D:
Pop Fly - Die because of double-barreled shotgun's recoil
Caught Napping - Kill 50 enemies by shooting them in the back with doublebarreled shotgun
in before scootburner that gets instacrits from behind and gives you a triple jump

oh god it's gonna happen isn't it

ISN'T IT?!

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6268/girlscaredandwetwj0.jpg

AAsama
02-20-2009, 02:39 PM
B3

Actinium
02-20-2009, 03:26 PM
If the can of redballs energy drink gives you enough speed you might be able to make the well jump without any assisting geometry.

Sanjiyan
02-20-2009, 04:02 PM
I don't get what the big deal is about the whole missing thing
oh shit he's really fast and hard to hit for like 5 seconds and then becomes slow as fuck for a while too, how terrible

tired scoots will be easy meat for everyone.

Далтон
02-20-2009, 04:04 PM
I don't get what the big deal is about the whole missing thing
oh shit he's really fast and hard to hit for like 5 seconds and then becomes slow as fuck for a while too, how terrible

tired scoots will be easy meat for everyone.

personally i'm upset because i feel there could have been something better

however if it's like a 5-second uber then haha enjoy your invincible speedy gonzales

Loy
02-20-2009, 04:16 PM
So wait, that pop fly achievement.

Does that mean that the Scout's scattergun replacement will damage him every time he uses it, or it has immense recoil that knocks him back, which could cause you to die from fall damage?

Either way, that blows.


EDIT: haha, Scouts die so often they have an achievement for it.

Sanjiyan
02-20-2009, 04:25 PM
TFC Scout player's life expectancy: 7 seconds

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h203/ExtantSanjiyan/tf2_scout_GDC_2.jpg

Далтон
02-20-2009, 04:28 PM
http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/energydrink.htm

Official descriptions released.

Force-a-Nature confirmed as the name of new scattergun. Also confirmed that it causes knockback. Same with the sandman, wat

Axon Griegor
02-20-2009, 04:33 PM
Out of the Park: Bat an enemy 25 meters.

Holy shit.

AAsama
02-20-2009, 05:44 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/AAsama/Untitled.jpg

Далтон
02-20-2009, 05:45 PM
guys can we add fastlane back to the rotation now

Cheese
02-20-2009, 05:45 PM
Classes with the ability to ascend rapidly (Soldiers, Demomen, and Scouts using the new scattergun unlockable ) have lots of options for traversing the arenas.

:I

Далтон
02-20-2009, 05:46 PM
:I

hello already confirmed

Skee
02-20-2009, 05:48 PM
guys can we add fastlane back to the rotation now

It's still poop but I guess we should at least PLAY it and see if the tweaks have worked

Далтон
02-20-2009, 05:49 PM
I still don't understand why everyone hates fastlane; it's just like any other cp map: counter the scout rush and it's fine.

The Ultimate Doughnut
02-20-2009, 05:49 PM
http://i39.tinypic.com/16gd26s.jpg

Далтон
02-20-2009, 05:50 PM
haha doughnut that's how my brother's was too

Sanjiyan
02-20-2009, 06:28 PM
I still don't understand why everyone hates fastlane; it's just like any other cp map: counter the scout rush and it's fine.

all symmetrical maps are fucking terrible

Loy
02-20-2009, 10:17 PM
all symmetrical maps are fucking terrible

what is a 2fort and lumberyard

otherwise, yeah pretty much



also, i do all but 2 of the scout achievements on a regular basis, excluding the ones that require unlocks. TEE HEE

King
02-20-2009, 10:19 PM
2fort is god awful.

Well is the best symmetrical map.

Krowzivitch
02-21-2009, 12:59 AM
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h203/ExtantSanjiyan/tf2_scout_GDC_2.jpg

Harelip Scout

Далтон
02-21-2009, 02:55 AM
"Confirmed" effects of the Energy Drink:

+ Gives a 66% of dodging bullet type weapons (miniguns,pistols,shotguns,etc)
+ Increases Scout's base speed from 130 -> 160

- After effects wear off you cannot double jump and speed decreases to 110 for 5 seconds
- Has a cooldown time of 2 minutes

pinch of salt etc

Gado
02-21-2009, 02:59 AM
sounds pretty cool

ZOOM ZOOM

HotPuppy
02-21-2009, 03:01 AM
- Has a cooldown time of 2 minutes

Oh wow, is having that long of a cooldown time even worth it if it is true? That would make a medic almost keep up with the scout.

The Bear Burrito
02-21-2009, 03:03 AM
Oh wow, is having that long of a cooldown time even worth it if it is true? That would make a medic almost keep up with the scout.

I think when he says cooldown he means you can't use it again for 2 minutes.

HotPuppy
02-21-2009, 03:07 AM
I think when he says cooldown he means you can't use it again for 2 minutes.

I am dumb and can't think.

How I use brain at this time? :(((((

Gado
02-21-2009, 03:20 AM
Oh wow, is having that long of a cooldown time even worth it if it is true? That would make a medic almost keep up with the scout.

that would make a medic almost keep up with the scout

Loy
02-21-2009, 03:20 AM
"Confirmed" effects of the Energy Drink:

+ Gives a 66% of dodging bullet type weapons (miniguns,pistols,shotguns,etc)
+ Increases Scout's base speed from 130 -> 160

- After effects wear off you cannot double jump and speed decreases to 110 for 5 seconds
- Has a cooldown time of 2 minutes

pinch of salt etc

There's only a chance of the odging happening yet there's an achievement for having a fuckton of dodging happen

wat

Gado
02-21-2009, 03:22 AM
crit energy drink makes you run at 300 speed, through walls, and dodge everything

Jace Twice
02-21-2009, 03:55 AM
does anyone know what the speed of noclip is?

AAsama
02-21-2009, 05:13 AM
crit energy drink makes you run at 300 speed, through walls, and dodge everything

I do that anyways :333333

Gado
02-21-2009, 05:14 AM
I do that anyways :333333

fistshake.jpg

AASAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMA

AAsama
02-21-2009, 05:16 AM
Also, i have a chance to absorb flames.
Ask anyone(Firewolf).

MayuZane
02-21-2009, 06:54 AM
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b30/mayuzane/epicwin/Black_and_White_ANIMATION_2_by_figs.gif

Skee
02-21-2009, 07:24 AM
Steffie's been hard at work I see

The Ultimate Doughnut
02-21-2009, 07:25 AM
Steph is crazy.

Exalt
02-21-2009, 09:35 AM
http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/teamfortress2-scoutupdate.jpg

HotPuppy
02-21-2009, 11:43 AM
Also, i have a chance to absorb flames.
Ask anyone(Firewolf).

fffff.

Being 3 seconds in the flame = AAsama not catching on fire and killing me.

AAsama
02-21-2009, 11:44 AM
Firewolf uses "w+mouse1"

Its not very effective...

AAsama uses "s+mouse1"

Its super effective!

Firewolf faints!

Далтон
02-21-2009, 10:23 PM
My brother and I tried cp_egypt earlier. Goddamn is it fun. Glad it made it into the rotation.

AAsama
02-23-2009, 07:39 AM
Fuck yes, its monday and valve-time.

Gado
02-23-2009, 07:48 AM
i'm ready for teh force o natura, let's see dis shit

well in like 12 hours anyhow : <

AAsama
02-23-2009, 07:50 AM
true : (

Cant wait to double-barrel a heavy and then bounce away.

Gado
02-23-2009, 07:59 AM
true : (

Cant wait to double-barrel a heavy and then bounce away.

don't you mean

TRIPLE BOUNCE AWAY

oh snap it's happenin

AAsama
02-23-2009, 08:00 AM
Ive done a quadrupel-jump more than once.
A few times off of the heads of mangs :v

Exalt
02-23-2009, 08:02 AM
I'll take that as a confession, I'm arresting you aasama for jumping in a no-jumping zone.

AAsama
02-23-2009, 08:04 AM
You have to catch me first, chucklehead.

Gado
02-23-2009, 08:11 AM
Ive done a quadrupel-jump more than once.
A few times off of the heads of mangs :v

haxers do not count sir

Affinity
02-23-2009, 09:25 AM
Pretty new map ftw.

AAsama
02-23-2009, 09:49 AM
haxers do not count sir

They count TWICE

Gado
02-23-2009, 10:14 AM
They count TWICE

: (

also inb4 meet the bonk

Exalt
02-23-2009, 10:14 AM
: (

also inb4 meet the bonk

I'll rage.

Bromang
02-23-2009, 10:30 AM
I wouldn't be surprised. There are 3 meet the team left, but 7 classes to update.

Gado
02-23-2009, 10:44 AM
6

AAsama
02-23-2009, 10:47 AM
5

Affinity
02-23-2009, 01:17 PM
4

Sanjiyan
02-23-2009, 02:21 PM
bid a fond adieu to your knee-joints, laughing boy

Далтон
02-23-2009, 04:07 PM
honestly after sandvich i thought "BOY THESE GIMMICK VIDEOS ARE DUMB" but if they were to make a whole shamwow commercial with one of the new items i'd probably like it

HEY IT'S SCOUT WITH BONK ENERGY
YOU'LL BE RUNNIN' FAST EVERY TIME YOU USE IT

AAsama
02-23-2009, 04:27 PM
Bonk! Energydrink infomercial would be awesome, maby even more awesome than a "meet the" video.

Unggoy
02-23-2009, 05:31 PM
honestly after sandvich i thought "BOY THESE GIMMICK VIDEOS ARE DUMB" but if they were to make a whole shamwow commercial with one of the new items i'd probably like it

HEY IT'S SCOUT WITH BONK ENERGY
YOU'LL BE RUNNIN' FAST EVERY TIME YOU USE IT

YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE MY CANS

Gado
02-23-2009, 06:00 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/GadoTheLion999/lolyoulostthegame.jpg

Dasbones
02-23-2009, 06:09 PM
Now why the fuck is that not on the page I'm looking at?

Taxi
02-23-2009, 06:09 PM
Hoping thats a shoop -_-

Gado
02-23-2009, 06:11 PM
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/GadoTheLion999/Iamtrollingyou.jpg

: O

MayuZane
02-23-2009, 06:12 PM
Valve's definition of Monday is too vague.

King
02-23-2009, 06:14 PM
updated Monday, just like vgcats

AAsama
02-23-2009, 06:14 PM
I just want to go to bed.
Have mercy valve.

Далтон
02-23-2009, 06:17 PM
spoiler alert it's still monday for another 9 hours on the west coast where valve is located

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7910/babybirds.jpg
howvalveviewsthecommunity.jpg

MayuZane
02-23-2009, 06:22 PM
I just want to go to bed.
Have mercy valve.

DOT.

Taxi
02-23-2009, 06:24 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/nfiu0z.png
wat

Unggoy
02-23-2009, 06:24 PM
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9113/12354307460901330037.jpg

ChopperDave
02-23-2009, 06:24 PM
Maybe you guys should live in a better time zone.

Alternate claim: Valve doesn't have to give a shit when they upload it.

Taxi
02-23-2009, 06:26 PM
Maybe you guys should live in a better time zone.

Alternate claim: Valve doesn't have to give a shit when they upload it.

The one that is being hit the worst by the financial disaster? No thanks mate, I'll stay here in future : D

AAsama
02-23-2009, 06:27 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/AAsama/Untasdaitled.jpg
wat

Unggoy
02-23-2009, 06:28 PM
Scoot update is an amusing if short lived meme.

Taxi
02-23-2009, 06:28 PM
Valve What Are You Doing. Doug, You Promised Me Great Updates. You Promised Me, You Shook My Hand And Promised Me You You Yooou!!!!1131

ChopperDave
02-23-2009, 06:29 PM
Argh fine Taxi then the second option.

Cheese
02-23-2009, 06:30 PM
I think they're having some pretty bad technical difficulties.

Sometimes, when I refresh, some of the links to the updates disappear.

Далтон
02-23-2009, 06:32 PM
when I refresh,

this is why

ten thousand faggots are going F5F5F5F5F5F5F5 so valve's bandwidth is just haha wat right now

Unggoy
02-23-2009, 06:32 PM
God, it's like AAsama made the time line for the updates.

AAsama
02-23-2009, 06:34 PM
WAT is that supposed to mean B|

Unggoy
02-23-2009, 06:40 PM
WAT is that supposed to mean B|

My statement still stands.

"Tomorrow or sometime after tomorrow"
- AAsama(1987 - 2009)

Im guessing 19th.

:U

AAsama
02-23-2009, 06:42 PM
sometime after tomorrow, and 10th wasnt THAT far off :v

Unggoy
02-23-2009, 06:43 PM
Its still a one day difference. Monday does not mean Tuesday.

EDIT: Oh, the achievements are captioned now if anyone besides me haven't noticed.
EDIT2: according to the achievements, it looks like the new main weapon is called the Force-A-Nature.

Axon Griegor
02-23-2009, 06:54 PM
EDIT2: according to the achievements, it looks like the new main weapon is called the Force-A-Nature.

Old news are old.

Далтон
02-23-2009, 06:55 PM
Its still a one day difference. Monday does not mean Tuesday.

EDIT: Oh, the achievements are captioned now if anyone besides me haven't noticed.
EDIT2: according to the achievements, it looks like the new main weapon is called the Force-A-Nature.

hello old news

Johnny
02-23-2009, 06:59 PM
hello old news

EDIT: Oh, the achievements are captioned now if anyone besides me haven't noticed..

Далтон
02-23-2009, 07:00 PM
.

still old news and i posted about it about 3 years ago