KillZone 2 *HOLY SH..*

[Tom The Yeti]

The Trailer (http://www.gamespot.com/live/stream_asx.html?speed=300&path=killzone2_ot_ps3_051605.asx&playall=&letsgs=&push=&prestream=&first=)
Holy crackers guys, I just watched the KillZone 2 game play video and my jaw hit the damn floor! I can not believe what im seeing! There is no way that this is what the future of gaming is going to be like. o_o

But the reality is that this is the future of gaming, and I am damn glad im around the see it. This is a changing week in Gaming History.
[note: if the link dosn't work, copy and paste the URL in the "open url" box of WMP]

[Mr.Vegeta]

The first game looked good too, but it turned out pretty underwhelming. They got a great atmosphere but the gameplay was sorely lacking. If they build on the atmosphere and get some solid gameplay it'll be great stuff. But in the first you could hardly even draw a bead on an opponent.

[Joel]

Holy...... damn that looks sweet.

[Balto]

The Unreal 3 Engine is in good use for Killzone 2, thats for sure. Defiantly the best looking game I have ever seen, but then again I can't really tell if those are ingame graphics or a cinematic. But then the game has the same looking ingame motions as the first Killzone had, so I bet its in game. Wow, characters with 7 million polygons look really good, I'd say the game has better graphics then Advent Children.

[Tom The Yeti]

The Unreal 3 Engine is in good use for Killzone 2, thats for sure. Defiantly the best looking game I have ever seen, but then again I can't really tell if those are ingame graphics or a cinematic. But then the game has the same looking ingame motions as the first Killzone had, so I bet its in game. Wow, characters with 7 million polygons look really good, I'd say the game has better graphics then Advent Children.
Im 100% sure that it was in game. Alot of thouse demos you saw were to show off just how powerfull the PS3 is, so they were all renderd in real time. But I too had a hard time believeing that it was in game graphics.

I didn't know that it was running off the unreal engen though! Pretty sweet :D

[Mog]

If that's in-game someone better slap me. I don't believe it.

[Solid Snake]

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wow.......

I love Konami...

[Purp13junk!3]

ya...i dont really beleive it either...If that is what it really looks like..then.. :fanboy:

[Mr. Sparkle]

Oh Man It is so cooooooool!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!1!!11!

[Blayd]

It looks like in-game spliced with out-of-game.

[Purp13junk!3]

also take a look at the moto storm demo..i dont have a link...but that looks really cool as well, but i think most of it isnt gameplay.

[Andyfox]

I think the question on everyones mind is.....
Will you be able to jump this time?

[Zombi3_Raziel]

I've heard it's fake like shit, and it's all a CG video done to represent what they want for the 'final' version.

Still, if they can pull it off I will be impressed.

[Mr. Sparkle]

Nope, that is the final version.

[Mr.Vegeta]

Nope, that is the final version.

After all the early material shown for games like Getaway and Killzone one I'll remain skeptical. I have no choice, Sony forced me to start being like this with them.

[Zombi3_Raziel]

Nope, that is the final version.

Oh i'm sorry, do I hear fanboy speak? (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/615/615531p1.html)

[Ruin]

I was playing the first killzone today coincidentally. Just got it back from some kid that thought he could steal it from me. Wrong, horribly wrong... I loved the first game, even though the frame rate was horrid and headshots were practicly none-existant in multiplayer... beware the sniper.

[Tom The Yeti]

Oh i'm sorry, do I hear fanboy speak? (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/615/615531p1.html)
wow raz, what a vary uninformative link.
the only thing that is concrete in that article is that Epic and EA were the only ones running a live render. But everything else in that article is pure speculation. Until you have hard facts to back up your arguments, you can bring them else where.

Either way, who are we to say the PS3 doesn't have the power to actually do that kind of graphic greatness in game? I think that EA and Epics presentations are good enough for me to think it is possible. If anything there would be a small quality drop, but thats like taking 1 bar of gold out of the 10,000 you already have.

[el jacko]

Wasn't the first game really bad? Didn't anyone learn from Starfox Adventures that graphics don't make the game?

I love Konami...
It's made by Sony, not Konami.

[Zombi3_Raziel]

wow raz, what a vary uninformative link.
the only thing that is concrete in that article is that Epic and EA were the only ones running a live render. But everything else in that article is pure speculation. Until you have hard facts to back up your arguments, you can bring them else where.

Either way, who are we to say the PS3 doesn't have the power to actually do that kind of graphic greatness in game? I think that EA and Epics presentations are good enough for me to think it is possible. If anything there would be a small quality drop, but thats like taking 1 bar of gold out of the 10,000 you already have.

They're at E3, and so far they have some pretty decent speculation. Instead of seeing it as a link to prove him wrong, see it as a challange for him to link us an informative website to prove ME wrong.

Jeeze, you people have no imagination.

[Necron]

Ignore the fact the first one was a shameless piece of shit.

[Tom The Yeti]

They're at E3, and so far they have some pretty decent speculation. Instead of seeing it as a link to prove him wrong, see it as a challange for him to link us an informative website to prove ME wrong.

Jeeze, you people have no imagination.
well since you put it that way... lets hope he does just that.

[Mr.Vegeta]

Both the 360 and PS3 will be capable of graphics shown in the PS3 demos....in time. The difference with what was shown is that MS spent most of their time showing off games that are being rushed for launch that were built on inferior hardware and Sony put together demos that were simply showing what they believed would be possible on the PS3. If PS3 development was really that far ahead of 360 development, they wouldn't be launching the PS3 behind the 360.

Games eventually did live up to the PS2 demos. It's just that it took about 4 years for it to happen. Games eventually lived up to the Xbox demos...after about 3 years. If gamers were shown the Xbox versions of Riddick, Doom 3, Conker or Half Life 2 in the form of demos around the Xbox's launch, nobody would've believed them. The issue with the PS3's demos is that they were shown as "what will be" and the media is presenting them as "what is".

[Tom The Yeti]

heres another artical about the "pre-renderd" situation.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/615/615152p1.html?fromint=1

[moglegacy]

yeh thats enough reason to buy ps3 alone

[Blayd]

Both the 360 and PS3 will be capable of graphics shown in the PS3 demos....in time. The difference with what was shown is that MS spent most of their time showing off games that are being rushed for launch that were built on inferior hardware and Sony put together demos that were simply showing what they believed would be possible on the PS3. If PS3 development was really that far ahead of 360 development, they wouldn't be launching the PS3 behind the 360.

Games eventually did live up to the PS2 demos. It's just that it took about 4 years for it to happen. Games eventually lived up to the Xbox demos...after about 3 years. If gamers were shown the Xbox versions of Riddick, Doom 3, Conker or Half Life 2 in the form of demos around the Xbox's launch, nobody would've believed them. The issue with the PS3's demos is that they were shown as "what will be" and the media is presenting them as "what is".Ever noticed how every damn Sony Console was released AFTER it's competitor? It's good marketing.

[HaXxorIzed]

To be perfectly honest it looks like this will be another killzone one. All show no substance, given the quality of the graphics thus far. I want glitches and I want em now.

[Otaking]

Ever noticed how every damn Sony Console was released AFTER it's competitor? It's good marketing.

Not every console. The PS2 was the first released. And the PS1 was released first as well. PS3 will be the first Sony console system released after competition.

[atomsk]

Not every console. The PS2 was the first released. And the PS1 was released first as well. PS3 will be the first Sony console system released after competition.

The PS2 came out after the Dreamcast, which was its main competition. The PS1 came out after the Saturn, which was its main competition. The PS3 will come out after the Xbox 360, which is its main competition.

[Otaking]

The PS2 came out after the Dreamcast, which was its main competition. The PS1 came out after the Saturn, which was its main competition. The PS3 will come out after the Xbox 360, which is its main competition.

Saturn competition? Dreamcast competition?
lol lol lol lol

[atomsk]

Saturn competition? Dreamcast competition?
lol lol lol lol

Be a moron as much as you want but that's what it was. The PS1 came out competing with the Saturn and the PS2 came out in the "shadow" of the Dreamcast, and I say shadow with quotations because the Dreamcast never really made as big of a splash as it could have anyways.

Heck, even the PSP came out after the DS.

[WoundingSquash]

The Trailer (http://www.gamespot.com/live/stream_asx.html?speed=300&path=killzone2_ot_ps3_051605.asx&playall=&letsgs=&push=&prestream=&first=)
Holy crackers guys, I just watched the KillZone 2 game play video and my jaw hit the damn floor! I can not believe what im seeing! There is no way that this is what the future of gaming is going to be like. o_o

But the reality is that this is the future of gaming, and I am damn glad im around the see it. This is a changing week in Gaming History.
[note: if the link dosn't work, copy and paste the URL in the "open url" box of WMP]

It looks CG. But these days, who knows. I wouldn't exactly judge the game from the trailer. Halo 2 had a trailer like that level never made it in game.

[IcedEmblem32]

I hope thats real time gameplay. It looked like it. My god. But yet again it could be like halo 2. To be prerendered! Or not to be prerendered!! lol

[Racknahm]

I hate to break it to you guys, but it's not realtime. The developers said it was rendered and then Sony scrambled around and said it's real time. It's supposed to be representative of what the final product should look like.

[Balto]

It's a cinematic. The Playstation 3 probably can't handle that sort of gaming power anyway.

[Rama]

I expect the actual game to look very similar to that, just without a unique animation for every character and every action they do.

It'll probably end up being about as intense as that, but not being quite so cinematic.

Also, alot happened in that trailer, and the "player" seemed to know when and where to look to see every cool thing going on. The actual game will probably have similar stuff going on, but not one right after another as fast as it happened in the trailer.

Thats what I'm guessing, anyway. XD

[bones4lyf]

*mouth droped*...

this may be the halo killer every one wanted "though i dont know any of them", this is gonna be the main reason why im gonna buy a playstation 3.....that and the metal gear solid 4

[Mesoian]

Does anyone remember how bad killzone 1 was?

Why are they expecting this to be any better is beyond me.

[Mesoian]

Be a moron as much as you want but that's what it was. The PS1 came out competing with the Saturn and the PS2 came out in the "shadow" of the Dreamcast, and I say shadow with quotations because the Dreamcast never really made as big of a splash as it could have anyways.

Heck, even the PSP came out after the DS.

Well, that's kinda what happens when you say your system is going to be 100 times more powerful than your competition and put out a tech demo showing graphics which couldn't be done for almost 3 years after the system's release.

Sony's hype machine killed the dreamcast, the actual system or the games had nothing to do with it.

[atomsk]

Sony's hype machine killed the dreamcast, the actual system or the games had nothing to do with it.

Bull. The fact that the Dreamcast was too expensive for Sega to manufacture, coupled with Sega's lack of decent third party support and their shitty advertising killed the Dreamcast.

Yes, Sony had their usual hype train rolling, but they already had better third party support and, on top of it, "street cred", something that Sega lost after the Saturn.

Don't blame the failure of the Dreamcast entirely on Sony. Sega was just as much at fault for the failure of the Dreamcast as Sony was. Moreso, even.

[Balto]

Since the first Killzone was medicore, I don't have any high hopes for the second one. The first had such a great story but it didn't seem to focus on that enough. Hopefully they can make the second a little more story oriented.

[Mesoian]

How does a 4 billion dollar ad campaign constitute lack of ads? If anything, Dreamcast was Sega's most pushed system. You can make the argument that Bernie Stolar dropped the ball of aquiring licenses and 3rd party development In the final years of the system, but even then, it's tough to do that since they still had pretty much everyone and their mother working with them, and made superior alternatives to the titles that they weren't getting.

Sega did make some mistakes, but let's face it. Were it not for Sony's blantent lies at e3, they'd probably still be in the console game.

[I Keel You Ded.]

Remember when they showed the PS2 and said "TOY STORY'S VISUALS ARE NOTHING COMPARED TO THIS OMFG!1!!!"? I do think this is what the PS3 games could look like, since they were all on the same basic visual level. That, the Insomniac Shooter, Killing Day, DEVIL MAY CRY 3, and so on... The 360's certainly seem more plausible, if only because they seem like they could be done (with the exception of Gears of War) on the current XBox. But, then, look at Splinter Cell Chaos Theory compared to Star Wars: Obi-Wan when the XBox came out.... Yeah. So I do think that over time the 360 could look that good too. Also, since we're approuching photo-realism, from there you can't go up in graphics... They'll have to rely on gameplay, which may cause budget devs to shit their pants.

[Trigali]

Sorry to ruin the moment but thats a fake
http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=36063&subsectionid=1585
That is a cutscene.

[atomsk]

Sorry to ruin the moment but thats a fake
http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=36063&subsectionid=1585
That is a cutscene.

No one really knows if it was fake or not. It's been said to be fake, then that it was real, now the word is that it was realtime at 5fps and then fast forwarded.

[Mesoian]

That's retarded. Even if it was 5fps and fast forwarded, it CLEARLY wasn't in game.

It was just a pre-rendered movie which was sony's interpretation of what PS3 games will look like at Launch. Will they look that way? No. Will they look that way eventually? Yes. Is this all Sony smoke and mirrors? Yes. And will this be the last time that Sony attempts this strategy? No.

I'm still trying to figure out how Sony is going to cut costs on both the PS3 and the PSP since both cost and arm and a leg and are considered "Ferrari" peripherals that are a privledge to own, rather than a right.

[I don't like names]

How about we all just shut the fuck up and wait until the games come out. When they do, THEN we can judge them. Judging games based on the previews is just plain retarded.

And about the fake vs. real thing, who the hell cares. I don't care if they are fake or not, as long as they look cool (which they do). :iffy:

[Bullet-Time Man]

It was a real-time demo on PS3 hardware, sped up from 5fps. And looking at Devil May Cry 4, which was obviously real-time due to the sparse background, and Fight Night Round 3 with its punch-physics (as I'll call them), it does seem very possible. And yes, shut the hell up. Who cares about it, anyway? I just think Sony royally fucked up if they're going to release the PS3 spring next year but had no playable demos or even videos longer than 2 minutes at E3.

[atomsk]

I'm still trying to figure out how Sony is going to cut costs on both the PS3 and the PSP since both cost and arm and a leg and are considered "Ferrari" peripherals that are a privledge to own, rather than a right.

What the fuck bullshit is this? I can see that about the PSP maybe. But the PS3? We don't even know what the fuck it costs and no one even owns one yet. How the fuck can you consider something a "Ferrari" peripheral before it's even out?

[Balto]

Some think gaming should be a privledge to the rich.

But I bet the PS3 will be under $500, in that case then anyone can buy it. Course it will be a little expensive when it first comes out, but if you are low on cash or are just plain cheap then you can wait for the price tag to lower on it.

But of course Killzone 2 is a cinematic, not one framerate drop throughout the entire video. I doubt the PS3 will get that good looking of a game so early on. For example, PS2's first games looked about as good as the final Dreamcast games to hit the market. So we should expect games to look about as good as they do on the final PS2, Xbox, and GC titles. The announced titles for the new systems dont look incredibly impressive, cept for a choice few.