Red Hot Chilli Peppers?

[coffee shaman]

Do we have any fans of the greatest band of all time (in my opinion).

There albums rock, their live tours sold out in a week, they are the red hot chilli peppers. To not listen to them is sacrilige.


Red Hot Chillis Forum (http://s11.invisionfree.com/RedHotChiliPeppers)

[Dr Grumbles]

Soooooooooooooooold Out.

[echoes]

I think I said it best in the other thread. They have not put out anything worth listening to since One Hot Minute. John F. has such a huge ego that he refuses to learn any of the songs that Dave Navarro wrote. Now every concert you'll hear is the same old Californication/By The Way shit, with "Under The Bridge" and "Give It Away" thrown in. They've totally shit on longtime fans to become the poster children for soulless MTV rock.

so yeah, sooooooooold out.

[PUZZL3D]

I disagree. I believe Californication, Blood Sugar Sex Magik, and By The Way were all VERY good albums.

Back to the point, yes, I am a HUGE RHCP fan. Better subsribe this thread...

[echoes]

BSSM was great. Funky and everything else that was good about the peppers. Key word being was.

Now there is nothing you can say to convince me that the Peppers are nothing more than Maroon 5 with a pedigree. Scar Tissue ~ By The Way has shown VERY little musical progress. I have heard them both, I even owned Californication. It's just....boring.

[coffee shaman]

I believe the same. Californication and By the Way are my faves. They are NOT souless music.

If you listen to around the world or Purple stain on Californication, or Venice queen on BTW, its amazing.

[PUZZL3D]

"Minor Thing" in BTW was very good, especially the beginning. I really want to get the song "Fortune Faded", but its only on the greatest hits album.

[echoes]

"Around The World" and "Purple Stain" are both pretty yawn-tastic (more so ARound the world). "Purple Stain" was on my first ever mixtape, way back in grade 8. It hasn't really stood the test of time. But really, I didn't expect a song about a woman's period to do so in the first place.

I haven't heard "Venice Queen", but I don't think I will be terribly impressed, since I really didn't like anything off of By The Way. They've found a sound that the MTV-ites love, and they're going to stick to it, by golly. I don't expect very much of these guys anymore. Call me when they start playing songs off of One Hot Minute, then I may be interested again.

edit : I heard "Fortune Faded" so much at my old work, and it was the only tune on the radio that would make me dive for the volume knob to turn it down. Just...a bad song.

[PUZZL3D]

Will do.

Despite echos' opinion, I personally prefer the newer stuff over their older stuff.

[coffee shaman]

to hell with this man. I havent once listened to MTV and i like the RHCP. The old stuff is good. You just don't like them because they've changed. Tastes are divided on music. I bet half the people in this forum would turn in the grave if i was to say i hate metallica (true) and bombard me with PMs.

The new RHCP has Soul, just not the kind you like. Regardless discussion ends here.

[PUZZL3D]

Here we go...

Metallica fans, START YOUR SPAMMING!!!

[echoes]

to hell with this man. I havent once listened to MTV and i like the RHCP. The old stuff is good. You just don't like them because they've changed.

I love bands that change (like Pearl Jam, Metallica, Radiohead), but RHCP did not saunter off into an interesting musical direction, they just went for radio-friendly, watered-down songs that I do not enjoy or connect with. Change is not bad. Boring music is.

But anyways, to each their own, I will stop shit-talking the new stuff, we all know my opinion now. What are your guys favorite tunes?

"Suck My Kiss" or "My Friends" are up there, but "Soul To Squeeze" is just plain some badass shit. Back to your regularily scheduled RHCP loving

[coffee shaman]

eh, ur comment, no hassle. My friends was a great song. I can play it on the guitar, and i have the chords if any1 wants em.

[PUZZL3D]

If you're not gonna post something nice and expect us to like it, don't bother posting. Don't turn this into another flame war!

[echoes]

If you're not gonna post something nice and expect us to like it, don't bother posting. Don't turn this into another flame war!

errr dude...I'm trying to stimulate some discussion here. It is called an opinion. I never once insulted you or anything, I just offered up my views on the subject at hand (besides, I am being entirely civil here, calm down). I've said my piece, and I don't think that some respectful disagreement is any reason to degrade this into a flame war. If there is one thing I cannot stand, it is threads where everyone agrees without any real discussion. Get used to it, if I disagree with things, I 'll say it, and make my reasons for it.

[coffee shaman]

might as well post the chords

starts D major.


- - = This is a D btw, i hope u can follow the rest
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[echoes]

I am confused by this way of tabulature. Why not just look it up at mxtabs.net? They have loads of tabbing there, esp for RHCP

[coffee shaman]

Sorry, not very good at drawing chords. But if you see the first chord is a D, then the rest should follow (hopefully)

[Mitch]

My Opinion is similar to echoes' cept I'm a little less informed, as I said in another thread The only RHCP album I own, or owned as I've lost it, Was one hot minute which is a fantastic album. Everything else I've heard has bored me senseless or just been over played.

And if everybody posted about how much they loved the chillis it'd be the same thing..over and over. Discussion is good.

[coffee shaman]

too right. One Hot Minute is a good album, but ive always been more to the idea of all their albums being good. A good opinion for the thread creater. Feel free to post ur opinions, but only on this band.

[coffee shaman]

The live album, i finally found it! Sweet Liberator!

The intro is the most amazing ever.

[Khonsu]

Frankly, I still love RHCP, and now they're all over 40, I don't care if they've "sold out." They all fought intense drug addictions and overcame. That's worth a few shitty albums and milking a fat cow for what it's worth. Once a rocker hits the over the hill mark, I think he has earned the right to mellow out and sell out and set up a nice little retirement fund for his groupies' babies. Everyone believes in this "better to burn out than to fade away" BS, and I once and still at times believe it too, but there's only so much genius in most people--once that's tapped out, the soul gets tired, and you start wondering what you did with your life.

Most people wouldn't be content to released a few albums and running around on stage with tubesocks on their dicks. Hipsters, rock enthusiasts, and critics alike have this idea that making money from your passion is somehow a bad, impure thing. The Gershwin Bros, the Beatles, Mozart, and Jimi Hendrix all made a comfortable living off of their music, so why is it that these greats are allowed to "sell out" and RHCP aren't? The Peppers changed how funk, groove, fusion, and rock music were handled in unison. Some music anthologies and encyclopaedia list the Peppers under "funk metal" and I wouldn't disagree. They did a lot--let them grow old and rich without your bitching.

Besides, I REALLY don't want to see a 60 year old Flea rocking the bass to "Sex Rap" with a tubesock on his flaccid schlong. Let the hot young men rock, let the old men roll into their graves.

[Khonsu]

I think I said it best in the other thread. They have not put out anything worth listening to since One Hot Minute. John F. has such a huge ego that he refuses to learn any of the songs that Dave Navarro wrote. Now every concert you'll hear is the same old Californication/By The Way shit, with "Under The Bridge" and "Give It Away" thrown in. They've totally shit on longtime fans to become the poster children for soulless MTV rock.

so yeah, sooooooooold out.

Sorry for the double post...but...John F. doesn't have a bigger ego than Bono. You cannot say John has an ego without first analyzing Bono.

Also--shut up, Navarro is a hot, talented guitarist, but he's a damn brat. If you get two headstrong people in a band, you get to see sacrifices made, because if the two try to cow to each other, they'll implode.

[coffee shaman]

You could say theyre beyond your time, but i still like them. If they've gone past sellby date, how come they did so well with californication? And by the way?

It may have mellowed, and changed, but thats the way i like it. But i agree with you. Everything must end sometime. Just not yet. Besides, if you can keep your figure through drugs and rehab and everything else, it should last.

[echoes]

Sorry for the double post...but...John F. doesn't have a bigger ego than Bono. You cannot say John has an ego without first analyzing Bono.

Also--shut up, Navarro is a hot, talented guitarist, but he's a damn brat. If you get two headstrong people in a band, you get to see sacrifices made, because if the two try to cow to each other, they'll implode.


First off, Navarro and John F. were never in the band at the same time. No clash of egos if they were never in the band together. Know what you're talking about before telling me to shut up, next time. The only sacrifice being made is that they won't play a lot of decent older material because John refuses to play Dave's old Peppers material. Sack up and play what your fans want to hear.

Next thing, just because Bono has a big ego, doesn't mean John can't be an egotistical prick as well? If I want to say that person X is an asshole, do I need to analyze the entire course of history to find every single person who is a bigger ass. It is sufficient to state that he is a giant ass. Bono may have a bigger ego, but that has NOTHING to do with what I am arguing. SO drop that shit. Frusciante has a massive ego, that's why he doesn't play old songs, that's why they dropped songs from the "Live at Slane Castle" DVD because John didn't like how he played. Big deal, it's a live concert, you roll with the punches. Bono has absolutuly zero relevance in this discussion

also - funk metal? FUnk rock, maybe back in the day, but I disagree on the metal call. And in the last 5 years there has been very little funk from their camp. Also, when did The Beatles or Jimi Hendrix "sell out". This I gotta hear.

[ChainChompMan]

I havent once listened to MTV and i like the RHCP.
Sorry just saying, generally calling something MTV-friendly or a similar term just means very mainstream. Not necessarily anything to do with MTV itself, any music channel or radio follows the same idea.
Also, Khonsu, just because a band is getting on a bit doesn't mean they can't still produce new, original, great and interesting music. Kraftwerk have been around 30 years and they haven't "sold out". Radiohead have been around a while too and they haven't sold out either.

(I'm not joining or starting an argument about RHCP, I have only heard their mainstream stuff and I don't like it much.)

[Nohbdy]

Personally, I put ability before the temperment of an artist when I judge him / her. I've been listening to their stuff for some time. And while they haven't put out much good stuff out there lately, they're still able to do some good stuff.

[coffee shaman]

true. Of course, when you say mainstream, i think of rap, chav mcs, pop singers and that junk, not of RHCP. Here in england, we have a different mainstream.

[Nathan]

personally i ouldt say rap=chavs dance n techno and DnB=chavs coffeshaman

i like rap and im anything but a chav

but i also like bands such as RHCP who rule

[coffee shaman]

Plus, while were on the subject, I think John refused to play the old songs for a reason. Sacrilege.

Lets say you've just left a band, and somebody has replaced you. i'd be mortified if they were playing *my* songs. Id Sue them for all they'd got.

Its a sign of respect for Navarro, and the songs he played.

[ChainChompMan]

I am English, I know about the British mainstream. I also know that the Chillis have got quite a bit of play on British MTV (I stopped watching MTV about two years ago, but they got LOADS of play back then). Not only chavs like rap. And don't tell me the only music in the charts is hip-hop and techno stuff, I know that's not true. One word, "indie".

[echoes]

Lets say you've just left a band, and somebody has replaced you. i'd be mortified if they were playing *my* songs. Id Sue them for all they'd got.



errr....that isn't exactly how it works, you see. A band can play any other band's songs if they want, so it doesn't matter who wrote a song. You can still play it live. If you place that recording on an album, then you have to pay royalties to the writer. So even if another band was playing *your* songs live, there's nothing you can do about it, except take the compliment.

And neither of us can say definitively why John won't play old songs anymore. I just think it makes him look like an egotistical hack.

[Mitch]

And don't tell me the only music in the charts is hip-hop and techno stuff, I know that's not true. One word, "indie".


The New system of a down album is number one in the charts.

[coffee shaman]

well, it certainly adds interest to the band. There are plenty of good guitarists out there. The rest of the guys (flea, antony kiedis) are good. Flea is a good basist, and a very nice person.

[ChainChompMan]

The New system of a down album is number one in the charts.
Exactly :) Though pop and hip-hop are very popular styles of music, they are no way the only chart-toppers. Plenty of rock/metal bands get into the charts, though admittedly a lot of them are a bit watered-down.

[coffee shaman]

True. But most music relies on videos, as the song goes, to get in the charts.

I mean, how the hell would that Axel DF tune get anywhere if it wasnt for that bloody video. It beat Coldplay. COLDPLAY!

Sacriligous Hyppocrites. Still, im setting a link to a friends site.

[ChainChompMan]

True. But most music relies on videos, as the song goes, to get in the charts.

I mean, how the hell would that Axel DF tune get anywhere if it wasnt for that bloody video. It beat Coldplay. COLDPLAY!

Sacriligous Hyppocrites. Still, im setting a link to a friends site.
I know, that's been pissing me off all weekend, I don't mind the song, it's just particularly bad techno, but the fact that people BUY it! What kind of fuckhead would buy a Crazy Frog song? It's not even proper music. I'm not a big fan of Coldplay, but I recognise talent, and talent is something a computer-generated frog can never have.

[coffee shaman]

dont... just dont talk to me about crazy frog, unless you want some horrible things to happen...

Major Payne Horrible O.o

Regardless, i still hate the charts.