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SuperJacob
05-29-2005, 02:04 PM
What would you prefer?
American cartoons ex. Family Guy
Japanese anime ex. Naruto

Admin: change the poll so that it is only one choice.
I kinda messed up on the poll.

The Listener
05-29-2005, 03:05 PM
Why choose? Some American cartoons are better than some anime, some anime are better than American cartoons.

Edler
05-30-2005, 12:29 AM
Looney Tunes.


End of thread.

Ninja-Z
05-30-2005, 12:32 AM
There once was a time, long long ago, when American Cartoons were good....now they suck. End of story.

There once was a time, long long ago, when anime was unheard of here...now Trigun came. End of story.

Invader_BoB
05-30-2005, 12:42 AM
Invader Zim is the last great american cartoon... RIP. Favorite anime i would have to say Blue gender though short lived very good.

Purp13junk!3
05-30-2005, 12:44 AM
Its the apples Vs. Oranges again! woo hoo!! lets hope that doesnt happen. At least you used the word "prefere" and not "better". Cuz your the guy who made the "which is better...futurama/family guy and the psp/ds" thing as well

Anime- Action and entertaining. not usually that good for comedy.

American- usually have comedy or all around family enjoyment. EX: looney toons.

Edler
05-30-2005, 01:33 AM
EX: loney toons.


I don't like that show. So depressing. :(



PS: Looney Tunes has been (and will be) better than anything put out by Japan. I'm sorry, but again, these are the facts.

Purp13junk!3
05-30-2005, 01:42 AM
you know what i meant...

looney toons..watever.

Ninja-Z
05-30-2005, 01:43 AM
I'm not saying Looney Tune sucks in comparison to anime, just to let people know, I'm just stating what I think of American Cartoons in recent times...

Purp13junk!3
05-30-2005, 01:53 AM
of course they arent as good now..all the origional writers are either retired or dead. (i think.) But the origional stuff was gold. All drawings and no computer stuff.

radiopillows
05-30-2005, 06:06 AM
Apples and oranges.

The Smiggler
05-30-2005, 12:48 PM
Apples and apples from a different tree.

Travisty
05-30-2005, 12:57 PM
Depends on the show, picking one style over another is just stupid.

GameCobra
05-30-2005, 01:00 PM
Depends on the show, picking one style over another is just stupid.

agreed. i really don't care about the type of art, but the type of art DOES give me a judgement about the series. like i know that USUALLY Japanese Anime is good and that art with familiar character animations like in Futurama and Family Guy. but the taste in shows is different.

ryoryo
05-30-2005, 01:11 PM
American cartoons all the way. I still love Ninja Turtles. And Earthworm Jim rocked.

There are good anime out there, but the general problem with anime is that they`re overdramatacised. They can take an otherwise normal situation, add those action lines until it seems like a final showdown between last boss and hero.

Picking one art style over another is stupid, but the art style is rather closely linked with the style of storytelling.

Ryu
05-30-2005, 07:37 PM
I like anime better than American. Just 'cause anime is my cup of tea. Humour and serious. American is just funny and not that serious. I want to actually get attached to the characters and care about them. :nyah:

Racknahm
05-30-2005, 11:59 PM
They're pretty much the same if you ask me, the difference being the art style. If you think western animation doesn't have too many serious tones, just search around, they're not very mainstream. I guess it has more to do with cultural differences, such as animation being very popular in Japan and the social stigma in our side of the hemisphere that cartoons are for kids. I swear if I ever see that nun again I'm going to slug her.

I also challenge any who say Looney Toons suck, anything after the shutting down of Termite Terrace in '64 doesn't count.

Irate Fetus
05-31-2005, 12:04 AM
*Insert comment about apples and oranges*

Kurai
05-31-2005, 12:39 AM
What I don't like about Americain cartoons is that most of them don't seem to have a storyline, and a storyline is important for me.
But I loved the ooold cartoons, y'know, like Flinstons, Yogi bear, the Jetsons, and, the best of all, the looneytunes.

Now I'm interested in japaneses animes because I don't feel that new americain cartoons are really good, and some has excellent storylines. Many animes are does show many feelings too and all... unlike some american cartoons that seems to become more and more "L3t'z d3str0y 3v3ryth1ng 1n 0ur way and k1ll 3ach 0th3rs!"

Btw, I don't think comparing japanese animes and american cartoons is like "Apple and orange" like 3 or 4 people said before. They both have things in common and different things. There's nothing good in comparing 2 things that are too similar! :P

Valkor
05-31-2005, 03:47 AM
There once was a time, long long ago, when American Cartoons were good....now they suck. End of story.

There once was a time, long long ago, when anime was unheard of here...now Trigun came. End of story.

First... level... of though.... painful... *nose splurts out blood and hits table with head*

- Last words of Valkor as typed by roommate.

HadriansHaberdasher
05-31-2005, 10:29 AM
PS: Looney Tunes has been (and will be) better than anything put out by Japan. I'm sorry, but again, these are the facts.


I will agree to that. Back when violence was OK in cartoons...


but I voted both...there's some anime I like too...

Akira
05-31-2005, 11:22 AM
Where's the "This poll's retarded" selection?

Yeah, apple's and oranges and such, what makes a cartoon a enjoyable to one person is the genre, not the (overall)style.

(yeah, some anime styles suck (dual masters and beyblade) and some american styles suck (Ren and Stimpy and I can't think of another one at the moment))

And anyone that pulls out
1) Anime is drawn better, but isn't animated very well
2) American isn't drawn as well but is animated very smoothly
is an idiot...

Travisty
05-31-2005, 01:20 PM
Hey, Ren and Stimpy had an awesome animation style. Very unique, as is all ok John K.'s stuff.

Dr Grumbles
05-31-2005, 01:45 PM
PS: Looney Tunes has been (and will be) better than anything put out by Japan. I'm sorry, but again, these are the facts.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050217/050217_loonatics_hmed.hlarge.jpg

You're so wrong it must hurt.

Akira
05-31-2005, 01:55 PM
LOONEY TUNES is pretty good stuff, what happened afterwards (other than Tinytoons) doesn't exist.

Hey, Ren and Stimpy had an awesome animation style. Very unique, as is all ok John K.'s stuff. I'll agree it's unique and pretty well animated, but I personally didn't like it. Had more of a disgustingly erratic style to me.

pepsi2005
05-31-2005, 01:59 PM
anime, and cartoons are actually the same in that anime is just the Japanese word for animation. If I could choose one over the other though I'd choose anime since I'm addicted to it.

Vicious27
05-31-2005, 02:15 PM
LOONEY TUNES is pretty good stuff, what happened afterwards (other than Tinytoons) doesn't exist.

Now hold the damn phone right there!

Are you stating that Animaniacs and Pinky & The Brain didn't exist?

Akira
05-31-2005, 02:21 PM
Oh hell no! I'm talking purely about loony tunes and their spinoffs.
*hearts Pinky and the Brain and the Animaniacs and those shows (Freakazoid!)*

anime is just the Japanese word for animation. *buzzer* Wrong!
It's french!

Vicious27
05-31-2005, 02:51 PM
Oh hell no! I'm talking purely about loony tunes and their spinoffs.
*hearts Pinky and the Brain and the Animaniacs and those shows (Freakazoid!)*

But those are spinoffs

Edler
05-31-2005, 03:10 PM
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050217/050217_loonatics_hmed.hlarge.jpg

You're so wrong it must hurt.



Looney Tunes, retard. I don't remember mentioning anything Chuck Jones had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with. Much like Tiny Toons, which, again, was a retarded concept to begin with, and paled in comparison to the original Looney Tunes.


Nice try though. Good hustle ;)

Akira
05-31-2005, 03:22 PM
But those are spinoffs Not really, a spinoff would be something like, umm...Duck Dodgers in the 21st in a half century. That was pretty good now that I'm remembering it.

Pinky and the Brain or Animaniacs doesn't have any characters from LoonyTunes.

Vicious27
05-31-2005, 03:24 PM
Not really, a spinoff would be something like, umm...Duck Dodgers in the 21st in a half century. That was pretty good now that I'm remembering it.

Pinky and the Brain or Animaniacs doesn't have any characters from LoonyTunes.

Fair point, but the aforementioned are based off of the Looney Tunes line

Dr Grumbles
05-31-2005, 03:55 PM
Looney Tunes, retard. I don't remember mentioning anything Chuck Jones had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with. Much like Tiny Toons, which, again, was a retarded concept to begin with, and paled in comparison to the original Looney Tunes.


Nice try though. Good hustle ;)

I beg to differ. According to Warner Brothers, that is the looney toons. It may be a pitiful attempt to reconnect with today's youth (RE: their parents' disposable income) but it is infact the loony toons. I wouldn't have brought this up but you said that the loony toons "has been and will be" better than any other cartoon. So not just the classic loony toons (has been) but future incarnations (will be) best any other cartoon. If it were just "the loony tunes has been better than any other cartoon made" I wouldn't have said anything. I'm a syntax whore. While your intent was to cover that loony toons will be number one no matter what else is created, you opened the door to include the loony toons own future.

But this Buzz Bunny shit is in fact retarded.

Akira
05-31-2005, 04:09 PM
Fair point, but the aforementioned are based off of the Looney Tunes line Could you elaborate? I honestly see no connection (barely any connection humor wise at that).

According to Warner Brothers, that is the looney toons. ^-You screwed yourself there, WB said it and Chuck's dead.
And I'm pretty sure none of the other original Looney Tunes directors had anything to do with this (if it's not from Chuck or Tex...or damnit I forgot some, but if it's not from them, it's not Looney Tunes).

Edler
05-31-2005, 04:23 PM
I beg to differ. According to Warner Brothers, that is the looney toons. It may be a pitiful attempt to reconnect with today's youth (RE: their parents' disposable income) but it is infact the loony toons. I wouldn't have brought this up but you said that the loony toons "has been and will be" better than any other cartoon. So not just the classic loony toons (has been) but future incarnations (will be) best any other cartoon. If it were just "the loony tunes has been better than any other cartoon made" I wouldn't have said anything. I'm a syntax whore. While your intent was to cover that loony toons will be number one no matter what else is created, you opened the door to include the loony toons own future.

But this Buzz Bunny shit is in fact retarded.


grammar whore :P


and yes, it is a fact that he is quite retarded.

Vicious27
05-31-2005, 04:31 PM
Could you elaborate? I honestly see no connection (barely any connection humor wise at that).

Just saying that Animaniacs and Pinky & The Brain is our generations Looney Tunes. Bugs, Daffy and co are always gonna be around of course but this is the next coming of it

MCMAN04
05-31-2005, 04:36 PM
:lol: I dont watch any cartoons, have u guys ever heard of porn? :lol:

Akira
05-31-2005, 04:37 PM
Well, then it's not a spinoff now is it? n_n

I love Loony Tunes, I love Animaniacs...what's comin' next though?

Vicious27
05-31-2005, 04:40 PM
Well, then it's not a spinoff now is it? n_n

I love Loony Tunes, I love Animaniacs...what's comin' next though?

Well thats what I was saying fair point to, by definition it is not a spinoff

Edler
05-31-2005, 08:29 PM
:lol: I dont watch any cartoons, have u guys ever heard of porn? :lol:


lolz no what is it?

Racknahm
05-31-2005, 11:12 PM
Chuck Jones had nothing to do with the Lunatics mostly because he's too busy being dead.

Dr Grumbles
06-01-2005, 12:45 AM
:lol: I dont watch any cartoons, have u guys ever heard of porn? :lol:

Thank you for your insightful contribution to the topic at hand.

ryoryo
06-01-2005, 11:45 AM
Sad but true, Loonatics is Looney Toons. It`s a future incarnation. Let`s take Gundam for example. We have the original UC timeline and the more known Cosmic Era timeline. Both are valid and therefore they are Gundam. Yes, Seed sucks but it is Gundam.

We`ll just have to pray hard we don`t get any further desecration of our beloved cartoons.

pepsi2005
06-01-2005, 01:44 PM
Oh hell no! I'm talking purely about loony tunes and their spinoffs.
*hearts Pinky and the Brain and the Animaniacs and those shows (Freakazoid!)*

*buzzer* Wrong!
It's french!

It's a Japanese word borrowed from French! There are many English, and French loan words.

Racknahm
06-01-2005, 04:46 PM
Sad but true, Loonatics is Looney Toons. It`s a future incarnation. Let`s take Gundam for example. We have the original UC timeline and the more known Cosmic Era timeline. Both are valid and therefore they are Gundam. Yes, Seed sucks but it is Gundam.

We`ll just have to pray hard we don`t get any further desecration of our beloved cartoons.

You forget the power of denial. Such as did you know that Final Fantasy went from 8 to 10? They completely skipped 9.

Kurai
06-01-2005, 06:19 PM
It's a Japanese word borrowed from French! There are many English, and French loan words.

I think you are BOTH wrong.

"Anime" is a derivative form of "animation," coined in Japan to refer to all kinds of animation, both domestic and foreign. The word has a more specific meaning in Europe and North America, specifying Japanese animation.

Animation is the same word in english and french.

Racknahm
06-01-2005, 06:28 PM
I think you are BOTH wrong.



Animation is the same word in english and french.

You can't really rely on urban dictionary for accurate etymology. To the japanese the word anime is used for any and all types of animations, regardless from what region their from.

Kron
06-01-2005, 07:38 PM
american cartoons are ok... but there are nothing more. they kinda suck. they have no purpose but to entertain the fat lazy people. eh... bit harsh on my part. never mind. but seriously, with anime, it goes WAY farther, untill its not just an anime, but also somthing you can connect to.

now that was oddly serious. im never serious. IWILLEATALLYOURSCHIKENS!!!!!!!!!!!! ah... that was better. heheheheheh*maniacle laughter* :angry:

Rama
06-01-2005, 08:24 PM
I like both Japanese and American animation, but I'd have to say that I can think of more Japanese created things that I like than American.

Japanese notables: Anything directed by Hayao Miyazaki (Nausicaa, Spirited Away, etc.) or Shinichiro Watanabe (Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo), and FLCL.

American notables: Anything directed by Tex Avery, Freakazoid, and Space Ghost: Coast to Coast.

Kurai
06-01-2005, 10:13 PM
Japanese notables: Anything directed by Hayao Miyazaki (Nausicaa, Spirited Away, etc.) or Shinichiro Watanabe (Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo), and FLCL.

Cowboy Bebop owns everything!!!!! Samurai Champloo is from the same guy? o_o MUST WATCH IT!

beer pope
06-01-2005, 11:07 PM
Cowboy Bebop owns everything!!!!! Samurai Champloo is from the same guy? o_o MUST WATCH IT!

Indeed, Samurai Champloo is like Cowboy Bebop, but with awesome swordfights all the time.

As far as preferences go, both America and Japan do some amazing things. Anime tends to get a bit more of the artsy side of the stick, but it's the same stick, right?

Invader_BoB
06-01-2005, 11:22 PM
For me it's a tie between the two subjects of anime and american cartoons, both are great and both have different elements that everyone loves, unless you whant to ignore the fact the cartoons arnt just for kids.

Kino
06-01-2005, 11:43 PM
Anime or American cartoons? What does it matter, really? Anime has destroyed what we define as American cartoons. Gone is the day of the Loony Toon and the Walt Disney's Mickey Mouse.

Invader_BoB
06-01-2005, 11:48 PM
Holy Hell! he's right this is a sign of the apocalypse!

Ice Hendrix
06-04-2005, 05:13 AM
american cartoons are ok... but there are nothing more. they kinda suck. they have no purpose but to entertain the fat lazy people. eh... bit harsh on my part.

Harsh or retarded? :joo:

Racknahm
06-04-2005, 04:45 PM
Harsh or retarded? :joo:

I would say harsh, if I was lobotomized.

Ninja-Z
06-04-2005, 04:51 PM
Anime or American cartoons? What does it matter, really? Anime has destroyed what we define as American cartoons. Gone is the day of the Loony Toon and the Walt Disney's Mickey Mouse.

Anime hasn't destroyed American Cartoons. It's just people haven't really paid attention to making 'good' American Cartoons, really. You can still watch Mickey Mouse and Looney Tunes, it's not like they were tossed into an endless pit, never to come back. It's still there, just no new episodes.

Anime is just the style Japanese use in their animation, a cultural thing. It's the cultural seperations of the Japanese and America that make American Cartoons and anime so different. That being said, when Americans try to mimic anime, it doesn't come out as true anime, because Japanese anime came from the culture and American anime isn't really anime.

However, as far as the cartoons for each go, cultural differences once again come in. Animation in America is considered something for a more zany approach, because animation can make the characters do things most people can't in a movie with real actors. Anime in Japan is more serious, a way of story-telling and being zany. There's not many story-telling animations in the U.S. other than the movies by Walt Disney, and now with him gone they're pumping out crappy Disney sequels like never before with no purpose at all.

FullMetalAndrew
06-05-2005, 11:56 PM
My favorite American cartoon is Angry Beavers. My favorite Anime is Azumanga Daioh. There BOTH better.

crazyaishacomics
06-08-2005, 11:29 PM
I like both. Sometimes retarded American cartoons can make you smile on depressing days, or laugh on better ones, but anime is always entertaining. In other words, I like both.

crazyaishacomics
06-08-2005, 11:30 PM
I like both. Sometimes retarded American cartoons can make you smile on depressing days, or laugh on better ones, but anime is always entertaining. In other words, I like both.

...I'm redundant xD;

Seraphna
06-09-2005, 03:51 AM
By the way, they're redesigning the freaking new Looney Toons.

Ice Hendrix
06-10-2005, 03:39 PM
Shame they can't redesign it to not suck balls. :sad:

Balto
06-10-2005, 03:41 PM
I prefer American cartoons. More humor, but thats probably because I haven't seen a whole lot of "funny" animes, cept for "Azumanga Daioh."

Travisty
06-10-2005, 03:52 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/27/cartoon.controversy.ap/index.html

Info on ze Loonatics.

Ryu
06-15-2005, 09:37 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/27/cartoon.controversy.ap/index.html

Info on ze Loonatics.

It says "Page Not Found". :iffy:

Iguana
06-15-2005, 09:54 AM
American cartoons. So sue me.
No, not the old ones like Scooby Doo, I hate those more than life itself. More recent ones like Zim and Billy and Mandy are great tho.

Racknahm
06-15-2005, 03:26 PM
American cartoons. So sue me.
No, not the old ones like Scooby Doo, I hate those more than life itself. More recent ones like Zim and Billy and Mandy are great tho.

Dude, you make me so happy. I thought I was the only one on Earth that hated Scooby Doo.

Kron
07-07-2005, 04:32 PM
I Hate Scooby Doo So Bad It Would Make Your Head Spin

Haruko
07-08-2005, 04:08 PM
What makes me sad is I've seen EVERY episode. And they all sucked. It was when I was tiny and had nothing better to do.

Brandon Heat
07-08-2005, 07:09 PM
I've always been an Anime freak, so that's what i'm sticking with.

Indum
07-08-2005, 07:32 PM
Anime is so much better than American cartoons, till it hits the american censors who have a cold-blooded revenge.

wolfdemon
07-08-2005, 07:56 PM
Anime is much better.
Only american ones I liked were looney toons, simpsons, futurama and family guy.

Ironically Simpsons is drawn by Koreans.

TheEvilGingivitis
07-08-2005, 08:05 PM
Invader Zim is the last great american cartoon... RIP.
In a word: Megas.
Good cartoons are not dead. They are hidden.

I prefer Western cartoons (Not simply "American," "Western"), because I'd rather see a split second of something funny than 4 seasons of endless boring plot. Don't get me wrong, plot is great, and I'd never watch something completely senseless, but it shouldn't be overdone.

Indum
07-08-2005, 08:11 PM
In a word: Megas.
You do realise how heavy Megas xlr draws off anime? Still rocks though :pants_gri

CyberFox
07-11-2005, 01:21 PM
for the record I like anime that are Unique and Fun to watch
here are some examples:
Samurai Pizza Cats
Nanami-chan
Kaiketsu Zorori
Super Milk-Chan
Tokyo Pig
Ocha Ken
Jagainu-kun
Robonimal PANDA-Z: The Robonimation

I also like american cartoons but, i like toons are funny (and sometimes unique)
examples of funny 'toons:
Whatever Happened To Robot Jones?
Rocko's Modern Life
Pink Panther
Wacky Races
Animaniacs
Tiny Toons

examples of unique toons:
SWAT Kats
Road Rovers
Yakkity Yak

Khonsu
07-11-2005, 01:54 PM
This thread is making me nauseous...nauseous...nauseous...

PS: GIVE ME YOUR ILLUDIUM Q-36 EXPLOSIVE SPACE MODULATOR!
YOUR STUPID EARTH IS BLOCKING MY VIEW OF PENIS!

Racknahm
07-12-2005, 07:28 PM
Anime is much better.
Only american ones I liked were looney toons, simpsons, futurama and family guy.

Ironically Simpsons is drawn by Koreans.

So is pretty much every other cartoon out there.

TheDarkPaladin
07-12-2005, 10:18 PM
Anime is so much better than American cartoons, till it hits the american censors who have a cold-blooded revenge.


Very true there. Anime is the best. There are a few good American Cartoons but as I said a few. (more like one or two)